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Strategy to sabotage Obamacare....
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Posted on 12/21/2009 3:49:19 PM PST by tj21807

I looked everyone but didn't see this mentioned, so floating this out there hoping other, more influential people can help implement the following idea:

The Health-care bill will be going to conference where they must appease the House (Stupak & others) while maintaining all 60 votes in the Senate. So I think the key to stopping this at this point is lies with creating a division between the liberals. Why don't we call/write/e-mail/phone the Democrat Reps. to put more pressure on them.

Not necessairly to tell them the plan is bad (we have to assume they will just ignore these calls) but that you can't accept the Senate version of the "Cadillac tax" or you can go "lack of public option" or "no funding of abortions" etc. This may influence and make the Dems dig in and less likely to craft a final bill that will pass either chamber.

You can even ping pong (call your House rep. and say no "cadillac" but then call your Senator and say "no surtax on the wealthy"

For example: I can call my Democratic Rep. Carol Shea-Porter (ugh) and tell her to vote no and I can't support a tax on existing health care insurance policies. While I can also call Sen. Jeanne Shaheen and tell her I will not support and not vote for her in the future if their is an extra tax to on high income earners.

You may have to argue against what you believe in, but just like how many FReepers voted for Hillary to try and defeat Obama in the Democrat primaries, this may help us achieve our goal of stopping/killing Obamacare. Don't let the mainstream media tell you it is a done deal, we can still try to stop this thing!

Thoughts?


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: healthcare; nobamacare
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1 posted on 12/21/2009 3:49:21 PM PST by tj21807
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I believe any liberal who does not vote for this who is up for election will get back in. The others are toast!


2 posted on 12/21/2009 3:52:07 PM PST by Boardwalk
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The only problem I see with this is that I believe they're going to twist arms of those with objections and tell them that their concerns will be addressed "later". They just want SOMETHING passed and in a hurry while they still can.

In truth, I don't think anyone knows what has been voted for in its entirety, nor do they care.

3 posted on 12/21/2009 3:59:37 PM PST by Mygirlsmom (What do the _hite House and I have in common? We're both missing W....)
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When is someone going to ask the Senate and the House, on national TV, why they aren't part of the new ‘Healthcare Reform’? They should have to live under the rules they set for us!!
4 posted on 12/21/2009 4:00:21 PM PST by originalbuckeye
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Call, fax, email? Sorry pal, but that does NOT work! These sorry ass traitors do not care what we think.

What they will understand is an armed revolution. And that is what they will get. It’s way past time.


5 posted on 12/21/2009 4:06:43 PM PST by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: tj21807

You don’t need to sabbotage it. It won’t work anyway.


6 posted on 12/21/2009 4:14:35 PM PST by Brilliant
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How about this “I’m gonna run up a couple billion in medical care for myself!”


7 posted on 12/21/2009 4:15:03 PM PST by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: Brilliant

Operation Chaos. Attack behind the lines. The art of deception against the deceptors.


8 posted on 12/21/2009 4:16:09 PM PST by screaminsunshine (!!)
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To: tj21807

You think that this bill is leftist, wait till they reconcile with the (more liberal) House bill with a public option and all. There will come a day when we view the Senate bill as the moderate bill.


9 posted on 12/21/2009 4:17:21 PM PST by awake-n-angry
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I heard today that Pelosi will not allow the bill to go to conference. No more input allowed.


10 posted on 12/21/2009 4:32:42 PM PST by indubitably
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To: originalbuckeye

Who are you to question the royalty? sarcasm


11 posted on 12/21/2009 4:33:31 PM PST by Terry Mross (It's not racist if it's true.)
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They just THINK they are special. Reference up-Chuckie Schumer calling a flight attendant a bi**h when told to turn his cell phone off because he was holding up the departure of the plane. They need to get a real comeuppance. And SOON!
12 posted on 12/21/2009 4:40:23 PM PST by originalbuckeye
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To: tj21807

The harsh reality is that your elected officials do not care what their constituents think. All they care about is locking the liberals into power - forever. The sooner we accept this, the sooner we can get on with the revolution!


13 posted on 12/21/2009 4:48:21 PM PST by cblue55
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To: tj21807

The harsh reality is that your elected officials do not care what their constituents think. All they care about is locking the liberals into power - forever. The sooner we accept this, the sooner we can get on with the revolution!


14 posted on 12/21/2009 4:48:50 PM PST by cblue55
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Won’t the senate just need a majority - 51 votes - when the bill comes back to the senate?


15 posted on 12/21/2009 4:53:59 PM PST by IM2MAD
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There will be not battle with the House...this will pass.

Patriots had a chance to sack DC for the last 6 mos, and instead we made phone calls.

They despise us, they want some of us dead and need the earnings from the rest of us.

They won because they do not fear us, as we do them.

16 posted on 12/21/2009 4:58:06 PM PST by roses of sharon (This is a feral government, broken from the civilizing constraints of the Constitution.)
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The bill will not go to conference. Pelosi will rubber stamp the Senate bill, knowing they can tweak it down the road.


17 posted on 12/21/2009 6:00:14 PM PST by george123
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They don't need 60 votes in the Senate for the next phase. They only need 51.

And only 218 in the House.

18 posted on 12/21/2009 6:08:45 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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The Health-care bill will be going to conference where they must appease the House (Stupak & others)

It will never go to conference but will be accepted by the House in total. They know they will be able to 'modify' the contents later with add ons to other legislation. The plan is to get this onerous piece of dung signed.

19 posted on 12/21/2009 6:24:17 PM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Boardwalk

Depends on the district. For instance, I can’t see Nasty Pelosi or Maxine Waters EVER being bounced out. They’re in for life.
Harry Reid on the other hand...


20 posted on 12/21/2009 6:27:30 PM PST by Little Ray (Cheney / Norris in 2012!)
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