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To: TalBlack

Your post makes my point on this tread eloquently. No matter what proof of any kind is set before you if it goes against the teachings in a book you will never even open yourself up to the possibility of it being right.

There have been times in my life when I do envy people with your unwavering faith, I know I will never feel that strongly or surely about any belief, too much proof of the fallacy of man I guess.

We are at war with people who think exactly like you do but with another book, one that differs greatly from yours yet their argument for it is exactly the same, word for word. They use it to justify some of the worst acts of cruelty known to man, yet are sure it is His will they are doing it for.

I look at their argument, I look at yours, and if one is based on a man like Mohammad who would use his teachings to create a following that men are willing to kill over then I see others possibly doing it also.

I see people falling over themselves to throw their lives into the belief that an alien is imprisoned in a volcano somewhere. If L. Ron Hubbard lived 3000 years ago in that time frame could not his writings have been interpreted by millions also as divine?

I do believe that there is more to our lives that what science can ever show, but I just can’t put my faith in the ancient writings of people who were also struggling to understand where we came from and what it all means.


39 posted on 12/23/2009 2:23:19 PM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Abathar

“Your post makes my point on this tread eloquently. No matter what proof of any kind is set before you if it goes against the teachings in a book you will never even open yourself up to the possibility of it being right.”

YOU REDUCE ALL THINGS TO BEING EQUAL. THEY ARE NOT. THE BIBLE IS NOT ‘A BOOK’ ANY MORE THAN MOHAMMAD IS JESUS. THE BIBLE IS THE FIRST BOOK, WHICH TOLD OF THE SECOND BOOK (NEW TESTAMENT). MOHAMMAD WAS CENTURIES LATE AND A SAVIOUR SHORT (NOT TO MENTION HE CONTRADICTS THE FIRST BOOK).

YOU TAKE THE WORD OF GOD OUT OF CONTEXT TO DISMISS IT. BELIEF ISN’T LEGITIMIZED BECAUSE MANY SUBSCRIBE TO IT. IT MUST HAVE PROVANANCE. THE BIBLE, 1ST AND 2ND DOES.IT ISN’T ‘A BOOK’ IT IS THE FIRST.

There have been times in my life when I do envy people with your unwavering faith, I know I will never feel that strongly or surely about any belief, too much proof of the fallacy of man I guess.

MORES THE PITY. UNWAVERING FAITH IS NOT IGNORANT (AS IT IS POPULARLY DEPICTED IN OUR NEW DECAYED CULTURE)IT IS HARD COME BY AND IT IS A ROCK WHICH NEVER MOVES. I SUFFERED LIKE ALL HELL TO BE WHERE I AM TODAY. HISTORY IS FULL OF PEOPLE WHO HAD THE ROCK AT THEIR BACK. G. WASHINGTON, FOR INSTANCE, DIDN’T GALLOP ABOUT IN NO MANS LAND ALL BY HIMSELF. HE HAD THAT ROCK AT HIS BACK. I STARTED OUT THINKING GOD WAS A CREATION OF SISSYS, FAGGOTS AND OLD LADYS. I CAME TO THINKING OTHERWISE THROUGH THE GRACE OF GOD AND BY PARSING THE WORDS AND APPLYING REASON. IF I’D EVER COME UP EMPTY I’D HAVE TOSSED THE LOT AS A FRUAD.

We are at war with people who think exactly like you do but with another book, one that differs greatly from yours yet their argument for it is exactly the same, word for word. They use it to justify some of the worst acts of cruelty known to man, yet are sure it is His will they are doing it for.

THIS IS A REPUGNANT CHEAPSHOT AND A SAD, THIN, WEAK, FIGLEAF

I look at their argument, I look at yours, and if one is based on a man like Mohammad who would use his teachings to create a following that men are willing to kill over then I see others possibly doing it also.

MORE OF THE SAME

I see people falling over themselves to throw their lives into the belief that an alien is imprisoned in a volcano somewhere. If L. Ron Hubbard lived 3000 years ago in that time frame could not his writings have been interpreted by millions also as divine?

NOT A CHANCE IN HELL. L RON HUBBARD COULD NO MORE HAVE AVOIDED CONTRADICTION INHERENT IN LOW ORIGIN THAN MOHAMMAD DID. AND HE WOULD HAVE NEEDED THE SAVAGE HORDES THAT MOHAMMAD COALESCED TO SPREAD HIS EARTHBOUND VIRUS. THE TORAH AND JESEUS CHRIST HAD NO HOMOGENOUS CULTURE OR ARMY TO INSPIRE AND SURVIVE. THAT IS A TELL RIGHT THERE. THE WORD OF GOD SHATTERS THE ETHER. THE HOLY SPIRIT GIVES US OUR EYES AND EARS. WE CAN ‘SEE’ AND ‘HEAR’ OR NOT, AS WE WISH.

... but I just can’t put my faith in the ancient writings of people who were also struggling to understand where we came from and what it all means.

BACK TO SQUARE ONE. GOD WROTE THE BIBLE OR THERE IS NO GOD.

Merry christmas my friend.


40 posted on 12/24/2009 7:36:44 AM PST by TalBlack
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