Posted on 12/23/2009 2:36:26 PM PST by mccainiac503
[Chuckles @ LGF] Johnsons comment seems to me radically unfair. Pawlenty is a model of sensible modern conservatism. His answers to Newsweeks barbed questions indicate an instinct for practical compromise, even as he eschews any personal support for creationism.
That said, the interview and Johnsons reaction bespeak a religious problem for Pawlenty that will require much tact on his part and that of his campaign team.
Pawlenty now attends an evangelical church, but he was born and raised a Roman Catholic. He changed denominations at marriage, accepting his wifes evangelical faith.
Without pretending any insight into the souls of the Pawlenty family, Id guess a trajectory along the following lines. A not especially religious man married a rather more religious woman. She wished the whole family to worship together, and since affiliation mattered more to her, the man followed his wife to the church of her family. Decisions like that must happen a million times a year in this multidenominational country.
... Suggesting that Pawlentys reaffiliation was motivated by family concerns does not imply that the conversion is insincere. Far from it! Its honorably and attractively American to suspect that most of the differences between religions are more or less decorative ethnocultural elements atop the deep stratum of moral and ethical truth we call the Judaeo-Christian tradition. I wonder if God regards our attempts at theology more or less the way a parent feels about the clay napkin rings the children fabricate at summer camp: the intention is much more attractive than the product. In which case, honoring your spouse pleases Him much more than guessing correctly which religious tradition is least flawed and distorted by human fallibility.
But thats just one mans view. And I dont vote in Iowa.
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Sorry, I mean to say:
Help us Sarah Palin, you're our only hope!
Better? I've got to take a shower now and get back to trying to make contact with Goldwater's ghost.
One of the quotes was from 1958...
What changed between 1958 and the 1980s was Roe v. Wade and Griswold v. Connecticut among other SC decisions that federalized moral issues that had always been the domain of the states. The US Constitution was shredded in the name of a phantom right to privacy, the commerce clause and other dubious claims made by liberal activist judges. The states have been rendered vassal welfare states despite all of Goldwater's warnings. So yes, I'll trade every GOP Senator for 40 that could argue as passionately as Barry did for what he believed in.
I mean, I hate that homo RINO Goldwater. Just like McCain, another failed bitter old man from Arizona. Better?
I don’t know, 2912 is kind of far away.
I’ve had time to think about it now, TRIG PALIN XXXVI.
Heheh...
the war we are in is as much about the social issues as anything..maybe more
gonna be tough times ahead for you because we are coming and with a vengeance.
you might have to go Dem.
btw, what freedom of your's has the religious right usurped so far...be specific
I’ll educate ya son on Goldwater’s downfall sometime.
“gonna be tough times ahead for you because we are coming and with a vengeance.”
Vengeance is the Lord’s, not yours.
BTW - This is why people are scared of you.
Any republican that talks like that will never get the conservative vote.
If you are afraid of social conservatives, then why do you hang out with us?
Hang out with who? How many mice do you have in you pockets?
Why hang out on such a pro God, pro conservative site, if you are so anti conservative and anti religious conservatives?
Fixed it.
It is the religious Americans that are conservatism, don’t you look at voting data?
...if you're afraid of me, then you sure scare easy son.
You’re propensity to inextricably link conservatism with your own brand of Christianity is illogical and quite frankly, offensive.
Again, who are those mice you got in your pockets and what “vengeance” are you going to extract?
More importantly, why?
“...if you’re afraid of me, then you sure scare easy son.”
Oh, I’m not scared.
Hmmm, last time I looked a signficant number of “religious Americans” were voting for dems.
Maybe you should clean up your own house before looking for boogeymen among your own numbers.
You find my "brand" of Christianity "offensive", what is my brand of Christianity?
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