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Chuckles is a lunatic who thinks everyone in the GOP is a ranting evangelical nutjob. Sure, the Religious Right frightens people like me who lean libertarian on social issues. But they frighten me a lot less than the nanny state collectivists on the far left or the sharia law toting Islamists. Chuckles needs to get a clue.
1 posted on 12/23/2009 2:36:27 PM PST by mccainiac503
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Chuckles is a knuckleheaded moron. This is a non issue, Mr. Frum. Pawlenty’s RINOism is however, a game killer.


2 posted on 12/23/2009 2:44:32 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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Being a Roman Catholic Christian and deciding to join a different Christian Church is not a biggie except in the eyes of the Liberals. Christian is Christian.

Catholic man’s conscience was not formed by Catholic teaching. In that unformed state, he met a woman who had a conscience formed by her evangelical church. Man’s conscience was drawn to hers. Ergo, man joins wife’s church. End of story.

There is nothing wayward or illicit here.

And we Catholic pray for everyone’s soul and conscience, including the man who sits behind the desk in the oval office.


4 posted on 12/23/2009 2:49:50 PM PST by HighlyOpinionated (Abortion-Euthanasia kills the very people for whom Social Justice is needed.)
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the Religious Right frightens people like me who lean libertarian on social issues.

You are the real reason Goldwater lost. Get over it, you could never support Sarah, so go over to Mitts board.

5 posted on 12/23/2009 2:50:55 PM PST by itsahoot (Each generation takes to excess, what the previous generation accepted in moderation.)
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I don't have a problem with T-Paw changing faiths, but it reinforces my belief that he is a weak man who is easily influenced.
6 posted on 12/23/2009 2:52:40 PM PST by bwc2221
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Good grief. Chuckie's self-loathing versus Frum's hand-wringing.

The fact remains the margin of victory in a general Presidential election is determined by the independents, not either party's faithful.

Independents are not, by definition, moderates (a mistake people like Frum often make). Often times independents may be more aligned to a Pat Buchanan populist than a McCain Republican.

Secondly, it is more often the moderate Republicans who abandon the Republican party (as seen in the Clinton/Perot, and Obama elections) than the hard right, so the idea a hard-right evangelical Republican would not vote for Pawlenty because he was once a Roman Catholic, and does not aggressively champion speficic fundamentalist beliefs, is on the surface, absurd.

Which brings up a third point, evangelical is not synonymous with fundamentalist. This is a broad brush used by ignorant fools like Frum to paint all "evangelicals" as backwards snake handlers. Witness what they did with Palin. She went to a non-denominational seeker friendly evangelical church, and when they could not find anything scandalous there, they went back a decade to when she attended an Pentecostal church and pulled whatever they could to try to paint her as intolerant.

Frum is an idiot, and Charles Johnson is a lunatic. When the best we can debate about our potential Presidential candidates is their current choice of religious denomination, it indicates we have extremely experienced potential candidates. Compare that to Obama, where the debate was much more focused on qualifications and basic knowledge of the candidate's history.

7 posted on 12/23/2009 2:54:13 PM PST by magellan
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Frum doesn’t have a clue about anything, does he?


8 posted on 12/23/2009 2:55:06 PM PST by HapaxLegamenon
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Couldn’t bring myself to give a click to Frum’s web site. But I read the LGF and Newsweek pieces. Pawlenty’s not my kind of a candidate for RINO reasons: he doesn’t seem tough enough or committed enough to tiny government.

But he and Sarah are both capable of describing their more
fundamentalist religious beliefs than what appeals to many moderate/independent voters without coming across as scary, crazy, or as if they are going to legislate away everyone else’s freedoms.

He’s too mild and tepid for me, but he was respectful, honest and fair when asked about Palin, and he is one of the more marketable candidates we have. Wouldn’t surprise me if it came down to Pawlenty and Palin by 2012, and the last round’s candidates (Huck and Mitt) were old news.

Also wouldn’t totally shock me if he, like Rick Perry, could see himself in the running for Palin’s running mate. Instead of the Cheney/Biden old congressional hand, she could want a more consistent message of outsiders coming in to clean up Washington.


12 posted on 12/23/2009 3:08:26 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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Pawlenty is a RINO. Seriously, haven’t we had enough of them? Pawlenty at a national level would get his butt kicked in any election. When I see him on TV I change the channel.


13 posted on 12/23/2009 3:09:53 PM PST by vortigern
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Sure, the Religious Right frightens people like me who lean libertarian on social issues

the war we are in is as much about the social issues as anything..maybe more

gonna be tough times ahead for you because we are coming and with a vengeance.

you might have to go Dem.

btw, what freedom of your's has the religious right usurped so far...be specific

26 posted on 12/23/2009 4:05:08 PM PST by wardaddy (Say Merry Christmas or I'll kill you..slow....I am weary of the onslaught on Christ in America)
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I’m more concerned with his military record.


46 posted on 12/23/2009 5:06:52 PM PST by MSF BU (++)
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Sounds like somebody’s just trying to play up “T-Paw” (guffaw) as ever having anything exciting or remotely controversial occur in his safe little milquetoasty life.

I had no idea what his religious affiliation might be. If his wife is devout, let’s hope she impressed a few solid, foundational values, rather than his persistent, subservient compromise, upon their children.

Honestly, he’s just a sort of mousey presence, scurrying around for crumbs, behind the few who actually do have the courage of their convictions, as far as I can tell.


65 posted on 12/24/2009 8:05:22 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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I no longer care what Charles Johnson nor anybody else at LGF thinks. It's a dying blog ever since CJ revealed his true Leftism and hatred for all things conservative, with readership plummeting. LGF is no longer.

That doesn't stop CJ from saying controversial things just to get people to visit LGF and prop up his numbers.

69 posted on 12/24/2009 8:18:18 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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