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Files show US-UK tensions over Northern Ireland in 1979
BBC ^ | 12/30/2009 | Victoria King

Posted on 12/30/2009 5:35:05 AM PST by Labour-Watch

Newly-released documents have revealed the UK's "special relationship" with the US was under strain at the height of the Northern Ireland Troubles.

The National Archives files show the murder of Lord Mountbatten by the IRA in 1979 did not prompt the response from the US that the UK had hoped for.

While president Jimmy Carter expressed his "profound sadness" at the death, he made no reference to terrorism.

Downing St privately said his failure to condemn the IRA was a "deficiency".

The murder of Lord Mountbatten by the IRA on 27 August 1979 sparked shock and anger around the world.

The Queen's cousin and former governor of India was killed in a bomb blast on his boat off County Sligo.

One of Lord Mountbatten's twin grandsons and a 15-year-old local boy also died in the explosion.

President Carter wrote to then prime minister Margaret Thatcher expressing his "profound sadness" at the "tragic death" of the 79-year-old earl.

But an internal Foreign Office letter shows officials were thrown into a quandary.

"President Carter's message is notable for making no reference to the circumstances of Lord Mountbatten's death," said a Foreign Office official.

"There's no mention of murder or terrorism, no condemnation of those who indulge in violence."

(Excerpt) Read more at news.bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: carter; ira; ireland; provos; realira; rira; terrorism; thatcher
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Pistol packin' Maggie meets Jimmy the Peanut. Interesting to note Carter's attempt to cover up terrorism, in light of Obama's take on recent events at Fort Hood and on airliners.
1 posted on 12/30/2009 5:35:07 AM PST by Labour-Watch
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To: Labour-Watch

Odumbo = Carters 2nd term, on steroids.


2 posted on 12/30/2009 5:37:53 AM PST by Mr. Jazzy ("I AM JIM THOMPSON and moderates make me PUKE!!!")
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To: Labour-Watch

What? Jimmy Carter soft on terrorism? No, can’t be!


3 posted on 12/30/2009 5:38:22 AM PST by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: Labour-Watch
The Kenndy's didn't really like the UK. They preferred Hitler, way back when.
Carter appears to have been unsympathetic to the UK.
Obama clearly hates the UK.

Oh, those crazy Democrats!

4 posted on 12/30/2009 5:38:38 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (We have the 1st so that we can call on people to rebel. We have 2nd so that they can.)
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Jimmah was in love with those who hate us way back then.


5 posted on 12/30/2009 5:40:47 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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Yet another thing for which we have Ronald Regan to thank. He shut down the weapons pipeline from the US to the IRA.


6 posted on 12/30/2009 5:46:08 AM PST by SeeSharp
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Carter was a completely incompetent President, and we learn more here about how horrible he was.

His post Presidential actions show just how totally miserable Carter is as a human being.

7 posted on 12/30/2009 5:46:32 AM PST by Amagi
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Is there a murderous, terrorist thug, dictator, or group that jimmy doesn’t love?

Mark


8 posted on 12/30/2009 5:52:10 AM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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Would you have expected anything more from our first female president? The biggest peaNUT Georgia ever produced.

Now we have BO Plenty, who is even worse than Jimmy when it comes to foreign relations and homeland security.

Everytime BO Plenty talks about islamic terrorists it is always an isolated incident. This is getting old and the American people are becoming more aware of BO Plenty’s muslim roots showing.


9 posted on 12/30/2009 6:10:58 AM PST by mohresearcher
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Look at the Democrat’s base of support - Irish, Union. The IRA fundraisers circulated through Boston, NYC, Chicago, and all of the other cities with significant Irish-American populations.


10 posted on 12/30/2009 6:22:01 AM PST by CholeraJoe (My baloney has a first name, it's B-A-R-A-K. My baloney has a second name, it's O-B-A-M-A)
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And now the Georgia State Senate braces for the possible arrival of Jimmah’s grandson who is running for an open seat in Decatur GA.


11 posted on 12/30/2009 6:28:09 AM PST by Bulldawg Fan (Victory is the last thing Murtha and his fellow Defeatists want.)
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"Lord" Mountbatten lived by the sword and he died by the sword.

The US was under no obligation to fight Great Britain's political battles for them.

12 posted on 12/30/2009 7:12:17 AM PST by grand wazoo
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The US was under no obligation to fight Great Britain's political battles for them.

Great Britain fights its "political battles" at election time. Nobody ever gets locked up or shot for voting the wrong way.
13 posted on 12/30/2009 1:09:39 PM PST by Labour-Watch (www.labour-watch.com)
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Lord Mountbatten was a war hero killed by cowardly terrorist scum. Are you saying every world war 2 vet deserves to be blown up as they lived by the sword?


14 posted on 12/30/2009 1:42:14 PM PST by MadMitch
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"Lord" Mountbatten lived by the sword and he died by the sword.

To a very limited extent, I agree with you. In a war situation Earl Mountbatten could be regarded as a legitimate target. He was a senior politician, and a senior member of the British defence forces.

But the two children who died with him - his grandson, and a 15 year old boy who'd been hired to work the boat - were not legitimate targets. Nor was the 83 year old woman who was killed.

The IRA bombed a boat with three children on board and killed two of them. This was not collateral damage - the Earl would not have been hard to kill on his own - but a deliberate act of terror.

15 posted on 12/30/2009 2:23:04 PM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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But the two children who died with him - his grandson, and a 15 year old boy who'd been hired to work the boat - were not legitimate targets. Nor was the 83 year old woman who was killed. The IRA bombed a boat with three children on board and killed two of them. This was not collateral damage - the Earl would not have been hard to kill on his own - but a deliberate act of terror.

I agree that the death of the children was terrible. I would never refer to them as "collateral damage" or "human shields". Their deaths were a terrible and unfortunate consequence of "Lord" Battenberg's supreme arrogance. I do wish they were not involved.

"His Serene Highness Prince Louis of Battenberg" however, got what was coming to him. You don't dare the IRA to kill you and then flaunt it in their face by strolling through their neighborhood.

16 posted on 12/30/2009 2:42:21 PM PST by grand wazoo
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How did he get what was coming to him?


17 posted on 12/30/2009 2:49:50 PM PST by MadMitch
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I really wonder why you keep sticking his titles in quotes. I can understand a person thinking titles don't have any real meaning, but he had them and they were in line with the way such things are used - and the title you've just used here was one he had as a boy and which became extinct before the end of the First World War.

The Earl loved Ireland (and privately believed that it should be united as a Republic although he didn't express this belief publically because of the constitutional problems that might have created). That's why he visited Ireland so much, because he loved Ireland and the Irish. He was no coward and so he didn't let threats deter him from this.

When people want to kill you, just because of who you are, it isn't arrogance to refuse to hide from them. It's courage. As I say, he was arguably a legitimate target, and he accepted that. But he wasn't going to hide.

18 posted on 12/30/2009 2:52:29 PM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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It appears that grand wazoo is a supporter of terrorism. He may well be Peter King!


19 posted on 12/30/2009 2:59:12 PM PST by MadMitch
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Lord Mountbatten was a war hero killed by cowardly terrorist scum. Are you saying every world war 2 vet deserves to be blown up as they lived by the sword?

He was much more than a WWII vet. Maybe you should read a little more about him. WikiPedia Link

I know you Brits have no problem with "royalty" and the idea that some men are more equal than others. Also, you pine for the glory days of the British Empire on which the sun never set. However, you never seem to have any empathy concerning the negative effects it had on the nations you ruled. They were there to be ruled over and they damn well better appreciate it.

Not everyone agreed.

20 posted on 12/30/2009 3:07:41 PM PST by grand wazoo
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