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Mayor White (D-Houston) appoints commission to study term limits (he's locked out of re-election)
Houston Chronicle ^ | Dec. 29, 2009, 9:25PM | MIKE SNYDER

Posted on 12/30/2009 12:50:50 PM PST by a fool in paradise

...Mayor Bill White on Tuesday announced a 21-member commission to study Houston's term limits and make recommendations by July 1. Any changes to the current limit of three, two-year terms for Houston's mayor, controller and 14 City Council members would be subject to approval by the council and by voters...

In November 1991, after Kathy Whitmire had completed 10 years as mayor and some council members had served continuously for decades, 56.9 percent of Houston voters approved term limits that took effect in 1993. The panel appointed by White represents the first serious effort to change this system.

“Houston has the most stringent term limits in Texas — and maybe in the country — for a city with a strong-mayor form of government,” said Arthur Schechter, the former Metropolitan Transit Authority chairman named by White to chair the commission...

Schechter said he is inclined to believe two-year terms are too short for effective governance, but isn't starting his work with any firm opinions about what the outcome should be...

Creating a commission to call for a referendum, Wright said, enables city officials to “get all the special interest money behind them and run a major campaign” to weaken term limits. If this happens, Wright said, he's ready to go back into battle...

Limiting officials to six years in office removed Houston's government from the control of entrenched incumbents who were “almost institutions in office,” Sims said. But the current system, which she calls the “City Hall shuffle,” moves office-holders in and out so frequently that they can't see projects through to their conclusion, which often frustrates neighborhood leaders, Sims said.

And less frequent local elections, Sims said, might produce greater turnout than the 16.5 percent of registered voters who participated in the Nov. 3 city election...

(Excerpt) Read more at chron.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: billwhite; cultureofcorruption; democratscandals; howtostealanelection; publicvoted; taxdollarsatwork; termlimits; texasgovernor; white2010; white2012; youpayforthis
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1 posted on 12/30/2009 12:50:52 PM PST by a fool in paradise
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To: 1riot1ranger; Action-America; Aggie Mama; Alkhin; Allegra; American72; antivenom; Antoninus II; ...

So the Democrats are using the city’s money to again thwart the will of the voters by appointing a 21-member “committee” to overturn a voter referendum.


2 posted on 12/30/2009 12:51:51 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Beware the Green Menace, the socialists warning you of global warming under your bed are hysteric.)
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To: a fool in paradise
well wowzers..he probably is a member of May-ya Bloomers anti-constitution (read that anti 2nd amendment) task forsk and he can give this Dhimmicrat May-ya the skinny on how to short circuit the law, as voted in by the electorate (who he often poles), that requires term limits....

Laws are only for peasants, not the political elite.....

3 posted on 12/30/2009 12:56:35 PM PST by Vaquero (BHO....'The Pretenda from Kenya')
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To: a fool in paradise

Get over yourself White.


4 posted on 12/30/2009 12:57:05 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: a fool in paradise

Term limits are like Kryptonite to corrupt politicians. Notice that they can’t even come up with any coherent reasons why term limits are bad other than

1) Projects can’t be “seen through to their conclusion.” This sounds to me like a good thing. And in any case it sounds like only the most worthwhile projects would get completed.

2) “Neighborhood leaders” don’t like it. Well, who gives a rat’s anatomy? “Neighborhood leaders” are usually your unelected yahoo community organizer types, and if they don’t like something, it is almost certainly a public good.


5 posted on 12/30/2009 12:59:29 PM PST by denydenydeny (The Left sees taxpayers the way Dr Frankenstein saw the local cemetery; raw material for experiments)
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To: Vaquero

After he’s run out of office (via term limits) he’s now running for the Senate (in 2 years) and governor’s office at the same time. A career politician who served in the Clinton White House.

Get outta town you carpetbagger, the city of Houston holds no personal interest for you and it is obvious. Get your drunk driving underaged curfew violating daughter out of here too. Some of us want our streets to be safe at night.


6 posted on 12/30/2009 1:00:17 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Beware the Green Menace, the socialists warning you of global warming under your bed are hysteric.)
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To: a fool in paradise

Probably wants a backup plan in case the Governor’s race doesn’t work out.


7 posted on 12/30/2009 1:01:04 PM PST by BradtotheBone (Moderate Democrat - A politician whose voting record leans left and whose vote can be bought.)
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To: denydenydeny

People who are not onboard to see the start and end of a project means that there will be more eyes looking at a project. More oversight, and when there are bribes (and there have been on city council), this means that the corrupt democrat investors will need to “approach” more politicians to see that the deeds are not exposed.


8 posted on 12/30/2009 1:01:54 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Beware the Green Menace, the socialists warning you of global warming under your bed are hysteric.)
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To: a fool in paradise

I thought Houston reminded me of Honduras for some reason.


9 posted on 12/30/2009 1:02:21 PM PST by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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To: a fool in paradise
In the fall of 2008, Bloomberg successfully campaigned for an amendment to New York City's term limits law, in order to allow him to run for a third term in 2009. On September 30, 2008, reports emerged that Bloomberg was seeking to amend the law, and on October 2, 2008, he announced plans to request the removal or extension of term limits for elected officials. On October 23, 2008, the New York City Council voted in favor of extending the term limit for elected officials to three consecutive four-year terms, thus allowing both Bloomberg and other council members to run for office again. During the amendment campaign, Bloomberg’s administration requested the support of certain nonprofit groups, which attracted some criticism because these groups have received threats from the mayor in the past.

Bloomberg was the Republican and Independence Party's nominee for the 2009 NYC mayoral race. Bloomberg’s Democratic opponent was outgoing City Comptroller, Bill Thompson. Bloomberg won the election on November 3, 2009.

10 posted on 12/30/2009 1:14:35 PM PST by Vaquero (BHO....'The Pretenda from Kenya')
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To: a fool in paradise

it used to be that San Antonio TX had the most restrictive Term Limits Law in the country... two 2-year terms for all City Council members and the Mayor. It sure irritated the corrupt democrat polticians! That law passed by voter referendum in 1991 was finally changed to four 2-year terms last November in an election marked by extremely low voter turn out. We had a steady succession of Mayors wanting to abolish Term Limits since it was passed. Several commissions were appointed by the various Mayors, but they never got anywhere until now. In reality, all of these “commissions” were just studied how to sell a successful campaign, not make a serious study. The “key” in this campaign was a heavily-funded and well-organized ad campaign to suppress any discontent by packaging it as only an “extension” of the existing term limits not an elimination. They kept it low-key and no one made it an issue like they had in the past. Voter apathy prevailed... now Houston is using the same game plan!


11 posted on 12/30/2009 1:32:59 PM PST by coldoc
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To: coldoc

1991? Sounds like it targeted people like the corrupt Henry Cisneros.


12 posted on 12/30/2009 1:43:09 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Beware the Green Menace, the socialists warning you of global warming under your bed are hysteric.)
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To: coldoc

In December 1997, Cisneros was indicted on 18 counts of conspiracy, giving false statements and obstruction of Justice. Medlar used some of the Cisneros hush money to purchase a house and entered into a bank fraud scheme with her sister and brother-in-law to conceal the source of the money. In January, 1998, Medlar pleaded guilty to 28 charges of bank fraud, conspiracy to commit bank fraud and obstruction of justice.

In September 1999, Cisneros negotiated a plea agreement, under which he pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor count of lying to the FBI, and was fined $10,000. He did not receive jail time or probation. He was pardoned by President Bill Clinton in January 2001.


13 posted on 12/30/2009 1:44:07 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Beware the Green Menace, the socialists warning you of global warming under your bed are hysteric.)
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To: a fool in paradise

Who says we don’t learn anything from foreigners, Zelya gets a big shout out from Houston. Maybe he could sneak out of the Embassy in Honduras and come help out.


14 posted on 12/30/2009 2:22:13 PM PST by itsahoot (Each generation takes to excess, what the previous generation accepted in moderation.)
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To: a fool in paradise

So the Democrats are using the city’s money to again thwart the will of the voters by appointing a 21-member “committee” to overturn a voter referendum.
++++++++

That’s what I got out of it. Heaven forbid the elected representatives represent the voters. Talk about arrogant!


15 posted on 12/30/2009 5:59:47 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian (A "teabagger", that's me. ><BCC>)
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To: a fool in paradise
So, the next step is to limit "commissions" to one term, not to exceed 30 minutes.
If they can't come up with something sensible in a half hour, then they probably never will.
16 posted on 12/31/2009 5:19:12 AM PST by TheGrimReaper (3 years left for Amateur Hour...)
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To: TheGrimReaper

I second the motion.


17 posted on 12/31/2009 8:33:51 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Beware the Green Menace, the socialists warning you of global warming under your bed are hysteric.)
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To: coldoc

“In reality, all of these “commissions” were just studied how to sell a successful campaign, not make a serious study. The “key” in this campaign was a heavily-funded and well-organized ad campaign to suppress any discontent by packaging it as only an “extension” of the existing term limits not an elimination. They kept it low-key and no one made it an issue like they had in the past. Voter apathy prevailed... now Houston is using the same game plan!”

Somewhere in all this is a well-paid “campaign consultant” running around the country helping incumbents overturn the will of the people. They are reaching their fingers into the bowels of the Constitution....


18 posted on 12/31/2009 8:36:31 AM PST by mo
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Someone told me that zoning is coming to Houston next year even though anytime the VOTERS had a say in it, it was rejected.


19 posted on 12/31/2009 8:42:42 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Beware the Green Menace, the socialists warning you of global warming under your bed are hysteric.)
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To: mo

It isn’t the first time that Bill White and his cronies have tried to subvert the will of the people.

I recall an election a few years back where the Democrats couldn’t keep some ballot initiative off the ballot so instead they fuddled with text of it and added their own competing ballot initiative. Both passed and the Democrats tried to say that theirs superceded the other one (I think it was something on spending caps or property evaluations, not going to bother to look right now).


20 posted on 12/31/2009 8:45:20 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Beware the Green Menace, the socialists warning you of global warming under your bed are hysteric.)
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