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Cheap Chinese Substitutes Rule
The Strategy Page ^ | 12/30/2009 | The Strategy Page

Posted on 01/01/2010 2:36:30 AM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld

Indonesia has been buying Chinese C802A anti-ship missiles. The C802A is a 6.8m (21 foot) long, 360mm, 682kg (1,500 pound) missile, with a 165kg (360 pound) warhead. The C802 has a max range of 120 kilometers, and moves along at about 250 meters a second. The French Exocet missile is the same size and performance, but costs twice as much (over a million dollars each, but the manufacturer is known to be flexible on pricing.) The Indonesians see the Chinese missiles as a much better deal, especially since Indonesia is not looking to start a war anytime soon. So why pay premium prices for a premium, battle proven, Exocet. Thailand also went with the C802 when it recently refurbished its 053H class frigates (bought from China in the 1990s), and added the C802 anti-ship missiles to replace the older, and bulkier, SY-1s.

The Exocet has been around for over three decades, has been proven in combat and is known to be reliable. The C802 is known to be less capable than the Exocet, but it looks similar. For a navy that never expects to get into a serious war, that, and a much lower price, is enough to get the sale.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: c802; c802a; china; chinesemilitary; chineseweapons

1 posted on 01/01/2010 2:36:31 AM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: sonofstrangelove
Want to know how the Chinese get a hold of western weapons to copy? Go ask the Pakistanis.
2 posted on 01/01/2010 5:55:39 AM PST by SampleMan (No one should die on a gov. waiting list., or go broke because the gov. has dictated their salary.)
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To: sonofstrangelove

I didn’t know Walmart had expanded into heavy weapons.


3 posted on 01/01/2010 5:58:19 AM PST by dangerdoc
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To: SampleMan
Want to know how the Chinese get a hold of western weapons to copy? Go ask the Pakistanis.

Why ask a middleman? Talk to the source and ask the Clintons!
4 posted on 01/01/2010 6:14:33 AM PST by BikerJoe
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To: BikerJoe
"Why ask a middleman? Talk to the source and ask the Clintons!"

Bernie and LORAL would prefer you forget bout such things as missile guidance systems...AND campaign contributions --also after the fact permits

5 posted on 01/01/2010 6:25:24 AM PST by litehaus (A memory tooooo longt A)
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To: sonofstrangelove

“For a navy that never expects to get into a serious war”

This is why they can do this. If there was an expectation that these weapons might actually be used the Chinese weaponry wouldn’t be considered.


6 posted on 01/01/2010 6:58:18 AM PST by TooBusy
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To: sonofstrangelove

Maybe because the French were alleged to have helped the Brits defeat/mitigate the Exocet during the Falklands War???


7 posted on 01/01/2010 8:21:10 AM PST by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: Tallguy

Most modern weapons have built in kill switches that the provider nations could turn off during a war. Any country with a global COMSAT network has such capabilities.

China was probably able to make those sales because of the missile’s performance during the Israeli/Lebanon war in 2006. When a 15 year-old Chinese C-802 missioned killed the Israeli Navy Flagship, the Stealthy Missile Destroyer Hanit. Just 2 missiles broke the Israeli blockade of the south Lebanese coast.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/INS_Hanit


8 posted on 01/01/2010 11:35:38 AM PST by artaxerces
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