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The Mystery of Barack Obama Continues
Western Center for Journalism ^ | Steve Baldwin, Exclusive to Western Center for Journalism

Posted on 01/31/2010 9:16:28 PM PST by narses

Most Americans don’t realize we have elected a president whom we know very little about.

Pictured: Barack Obama’s Autobiography, Dreams from My Father. Researchers have discovered that Obama’s autobiographical books are little more than PR stunts, as they have little to do with the actual events of his life. The fact is we know less about President Obama than perhaps any other president in American history and much of this is due to actual efforts to hide his record. This should concern all Americans. A nation-wide network of researchers has sprung up to attempt to fill in the blanks, but at every opportunity Obama’s high-priced lawyers have built walls around various records or simply made them disappear. It is estimated that Obama’s legal team has now spent well over $1.4 million dollars blocking access to documents every American should have access to. The question is why would he spend so much money to do this? The president who campaigned for a more “open government” and “full disclosure” will not unseal his medical records, his school records, his birth records or his passport records. He will not release his Harvard records, his Columbia College records, or his Occidental College records—he will not even release his Columbia College thesis. All his legislative records from the Illinois State Senate are missing and he claims his scheduling records during those State Senate years are lost as well. In addition, no one can find his school records for the elite K-12 college prep school, Punahou School, he attended in Hawaii. What is he hiding? Well, for starters, some of these records will shed light on his citizenship and birth.

Pictured: “Scott & Barry, 3rd grade 1969” Punahou School in Hawaii. For example, Obama’s application to Punahou School – now mysteriously missing – would likely contain a birth certificate. And, according to attorney Gary Kreep, “his Occidental College records are important as they may show he attended there as a foreign exchange student.” Indeed, Obama used his Indonesian name “Barry Soetoro” while attending Occidental. Kreep has filed lawsuits challenging Obama’s eligibility to be president and as part of his lawsuit he requested Obama’s records from Occidental. However, Obama’s lawyers quickly moved to stop Occidental from honoring this request. Furthermore, now that at least three document authentication experts have declared the scanned “Certificate of Live Birth” Obama’s campaign team gave to a pro-Obama website to be an obvious phony; we know that he is hiding something here as well. Over 49 separate law suits have been filed on the eligibility/birth certificate issue alone, with several of the suits making it all the way the United States Supreme Court, only to be denied a full hearing.

Pictured: Saudi Prince Al-Walid bin Talah What’s more, there are questions about how he paid for his Harvard Law School education since, despite a claim by Michele Obama, no one has produced any evidence that he received student loans. The Obamas will not release any student loan details despite repeated requests from the Chicago Tribune. However, it appears that his Harvard education may have been paid for by a foreign source. Khalid Al-Mansour, an advisor to Saudi prince Al-Walid bin Talah, told Manhattan Borough president, Percy Sutton, that he was raising money for Obama’s Harvard tuition. Incidentally, Prince Tala is the largest donor to CAIR, a Muslim group declared by the U.S. Government in 2007 as an unindicted co-conspirator in a terrorist financing trial. At least three of CAIR’s leaders have been indicted for terrorist activities. Al-Mansour’s admission opens up speculation as to whether Muslim interests have assisted Obama’s career in the hope he would eventually be in a position someday to promote their interests. More recently, it was discovered that Obama’s Selective Service card may have been doctored. Federal law requires all American males to register for the Selective Service (the draft) in case a major war broke out. Blogger Debbie Schlussel has discovered solid evidence that Obama’s Selective Service registration form was submitted not when he was younger as required, but rather in 2008 and then altered to look older. Indeed, the forgers forgot to alter the “Document Location Number” which shows that it is clearly a 2008 form. This is fraud and it’s a felony and Schlussel allegations are backed up by Stephen Coffman, a former high-ranking Federal agent. Moreover, the document shows a September 4th, 1980 date and the location of the transaction as Hawaii, but at that time Obama was thousands of miles away attending Occidental College in Los Angeles.

Pictured: Barack Obama’s 2008 Selective Service Card. “Blogger Debbie Schlussel has discovered solid evidence that Obama’s Selective Service registration form was submitted not when he was younger as required, but rather in 2008 and then altered to look older.” The real reason why Obama probably did not submit this form as a teenager is that he assumed his Kenyan or Indonesian citizenship exempted him from this requirement. But clearly, as he grew older and entered politics, he saw that any documents revealing a foreign birth – Selective Service registration, birth certificate, school applications, etc – would be problematic if he ran for the presidency. Thus, it is not a coincidence that every document which contains information about his birth or citizenship is either missing, sealed, or has been altered. Indeed, everywhere one looks into Obama’s background, we find sealed records, scrubbed websites, altered documents, deception and unanswered questions. Can anyone imagine for a second if John McCain or George Bush had blocked access to his school, medical, and birth records? It would have been headlines but as with everything else concerning Obama, the media has given him a pass on this. Of all these marvels, the latest mystery and probably most perplexing is that of Obama’s social security number. It appears that Obama has multiple identities in term of possessing numerous social security numbers. Orly Taitz, an attorney who has filed numerous suits against Obama regarding his eligibility to serve as president, appears to be the first to discover this. In her suit, representing a number of military officers who are refusing to serve under an ineligible commander in chief, she hired private investigator Neil Sankey to conduct research on Obama’s prior addresses and Social Society numbers. Using Intelius, Lexis Nexis, Choice Point and other public records, Sankey found around 25 Social Security numbers connected with Obama’s name. However, it may not be as many as 25, since Sankey also searched using closely related names such as: “Barak Obama,” “Batock Obama,” “Barok Obama,” and “Barrack Obama.” There may very well be some Kenyans living in America with the same last name and a similar first name. In any case, I will exclude these records for the purpose of this research and focus only on names spelled exactly like his name. Moreover, we can verify many of the Social Security numbers as valid since they’re connected to addresses at which we know Obama resided. Needless to say, there are also a slew of address and social security numbers connected to addresses in states that Obama has no known connection to. In Obama’s home state, Illinois, Sankey tracked down 16 different addresses for a Barack Obama or a Barack H. Obama, of which all are addresses he was known to have lived at. Two Social Security numbers appear for these addresses, one beginning with 042 and one starting 364. In California, where Obama attended Occidental College, there are six addresses listed for him, all within easy driving distance of the college. However, there are three Social Security numbers connected to these addresses, 537 and two others, each beginning with 999. There are no addresses listed in New York where he attended Columbia University, but there is one listed for him in nearby Jackson, NJ, with a Social Security number beginning with 485.

Pictured: 713 Hart Senate Office Building. In Massachusetts – where Obama attended Harvard Law School – we find three addresses, all using the 042 Social Security number. After Obama was elected to the United States Senate in 2005, he moved into an apartment at 300 Massachusetts Ave NW; the Social Security number attached to that address is the 042 one. Yet, three years later, Obama used a different Social Security number for an address listed as: 713 Hart Senate Office Building. This was the address of his United States Senate office. This Social Security number began with 282 and was verified by the government in 2008. This mystery grows even stranger as other addresses and Social Security numbers for Barack Obama appear in a dozen other states not known to be connected to him. Again, I am excluding those records names not spelled exactly like his name. Tennessee, one address with a Social Security number beginning with 427 Colorado, one address, with a Social Security number beginning with 456. Utah, two addresses, with two Social Security numbers beginning with 901 and 799. Missouri has one address and one Social Security number beginning with 999. Florida has two addresses listed for his him, three if you count one listed as “Barry Obama.” One is connected to a Social Security number beginning with 762. In Georgia there are three addresses listed for him, all with different Social Security numbers: 579, 420, and 423. In Texas there are four different addresses listed for him, one is connected to Social Security number 675. There are two addresses listed for Barack Obama in Oregon and one address listed for him in the states of Wisconsin, Michigan, South Carolina, and Pennsylvania. All told, there are 49 addresses and 16 different Social Security numbers listed for a person whose name is spelled “Barack Obama.” In some cases, the middle initial “H” is listed. If you were to expand the search to include closely related names such as: “Barac,” “Barak,” and “Barrack” Obama, you would find more than a dozen additional addresses and Social Security numbers. Finally, the one Social Security number Obama most frequently used, the one beginning with 042, is a number issued in Connecticut sometime during 1976-1977, yet there is no record of Obama ever living or working in Connecticut. Indeed, during this time period Obama would have been 15-16 years old and living in Hawaii at the time.

Pictured: Ann, Stanley and Madelyn Dunham Nevertheless, all this mystery surrounding Obama appears to be a generational thing. Researchers have discovered nearly a dozen aliases, at least two different Social Security numbers, and upwards of over 99 separate addresses for Ann Dunham, his mother. We do know she worked for the ultra liberal Ford Foundation but we also know she may have earned some income from pornographic poses, as evidenced by photos recently discovered by some researchers—how embarrassing. The only thing researchers are able to find out about Obama’s mother is the fact she made porn. I’m sure that’s a first for presidential mothers. But we also know that Obama’s mother and grandparents associated with Communist Party leaders such as Frank Marshall Davis, a man who, according to Obama’s book, Dreams from my Father, was his main mentor during much of his Hawaiian boyhood (although Obama tried to disguise his identity in his book). During the Cold War, Davis was named by congressional investigators as a key member of a secretive pro-Soviet networked that existed in Hawaii at that time.

Pictured: Communist Party leader, Frank Marshall Davis. The lack of documents regarding Obama also extends to his mother and to his grandparents. Indeed, researchers have been unable to find marriage licenses for his mother’s two marriages, assuming she was ever legally married. Ditto goes for the marriage license for Ann’s parents. They cannot find birth certificates for her, her parents, or for even for her grandparents. Even more so, despite Obama’s boast of his grandfather’s military service, there’s no record of that either. For reasons no one knows, much of Obama’s life, his mother’s life and his grandparent’s life has been erased from the records as if they never existed. But why would someone obtain so many Social Security numbers? According to investigators, those who create additional Social Society numbers are typically engaged in criminal activities such as Social Security fraud, tax fraud, real estate fraud, campaign contributions fraud, voter fraud and so on. While the private investigator who compiled this list says multiple social security numbers does not automatically prove there’s criminal activity involved, he states that “having said that, I have personally experienced many, many cases where such information has led to subsequent exposure of fraud, deception, money laundering and other crimes.“What is interesting to note is that Obama’s grandmother, Madelyn Dunham, was a volunteer at the Oahu Circuit Court probate department and had access to the Social Security numbers of deceased people.

Pictured: Barrack Obama and his Grandmother, Madelyn Dunham. “Madeline Dunham was a volunteer at the Oahu Circuit Court probate department and had access to the Social Security numbers of deceased people.” It is clear that more research needs to be done on this issue. The Western Center for Journalism ( http://www.westernjournalism.com) is inviting our readers to join the search for the truth. If you have any information about any of the addresses listed, we would love to hear from you. To find a complete list of all the addresses and Social Security numbers listed in the public record for Obama and family, please go to the Western Center for Journalism.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
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To: Seizethecarp

I don’t agree with this in that it is quite possible..indeed probable..that the family was involved with the spooks.

There are the official Langley people...and then...

there are a whole other game of players...indeed...MANY other games of players...

and there can be contracts..and the..yeah you have a contract until someone above is asked...and the no, no contract..but hey..yeah..you are working for us...etc.

and the no files on computers it must all be on paper...and the no files whatsoever players..etc

and the people working with the cutouts.....who dont work for the CIA but work on their agenda..(ahem..various players in the killing Castro scheme under Kennedy comes to mind)

There is no doubt in my mind that the family was involved in intelligence in some fashion.

The CIA will use ANYONE if it suits their purpose...well the old CIA..I don’t know about this new neutered one.


101 posted on 02/06/2010 5:44:55 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: Seizethecarp

Actually, they only SAID the records are protected from disclosure. In actual fact, the Administrative Rules say that anybody who wants can get a non-certified copy of a marriage certificate for anybody they want. Death and abbreviated birth certificates too.

They just don’t want to follow their rules. They say that the rules are overridden by HRS 338-18 because statutes trump rules. BUT 338-18(a) only prohibits disclosures that ARE NOT ALREADY AUTHORIZED BY STATUTE OR BY DOH RULES. So the two are not in conflict. 338-18(a) refers one to the rules to find out what disclosures are authorized.

What 338-18(a) is trying to prevent is precisely what Fukino did - revealing an item from a certificate without the DOH having to certify what they’re saying and being legally accountable for telling the truth.

I have asked for the non-certified copies of both SAD and Madelyn’s death certificates, the marriage certificate of SAD and BHO, and the abbreviated birth certificate for Obama. The DOH has refused all of them. The ombudsman says their response is reasonable because the rules say they MAY (rather than “shall”) release copies, but UIPA says that if something has been specifically authorized for release then it MUST be released. The ombudsman’s office said if I think I’ve been wrongly denied I should take it to the Office of Information Practices (OIP - the watchdog for government transparency). But the OIP is referring all questions of what the DOH needs to do..... to the DOH.

A small sampling of why it’s taken me thousands of hours just to figure out what little I know so far.

The next step in the process is a lawsuit, but right now we have neither the funds nor the Hawaiian legal counsel to be able to do that. If we had those there’s already a good case that Hawaii law demands Fukino to reveal all the documents she relied upon to make the July 27 statement regarding Obama being a “natural-born American citizen”. If we can find anybody who’s willing to enforce the laws in Hawaii, all of Obama’s documentation should be publicly available.

Again, that is why this is a law enforcement issue, IMHO. At least part of what Berg, Taitz, and others have been asking to see is REQUIRED for the DOH to release to ANYBODY WHO ASKS, now that Fukino made her July 27 statement. There is no issue of standing. The only issue is whether there is a judge who is willing to follow the law and people who are able to file the suit.


102 posted on 02/06/2010 5:58:16 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: takenoprisoner

Seems like a person would have to know whether BHO’s first marriage was recognized by Kenya. If it was a tribal marriage it may not have been legally recognized in Kenya, in which case HRS 572(1)(3)’s meaning of “lawful wife living” would come into play. I would imagine it would depend on whether the marriage was recognized as a legal marriage by the Kenyan government.

Trouble is, we can’t know that without asking Kenya. And to do that would require discovery, which no judge has been willing to grant.


103 posted on 02/06/2010 6:07:48 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: El Gato

“But this is not an immigration issue and it’s not BHO Jr’s derivative British and/or Kenyan citizenship that matters, it’s the lack of citizenship of his legal birth father hat matters.”

It absolutely matters if you are arguing that Obama is not eligible because he had British citizenship- and this is the argument of many.

If all you are arguing is that he is not eligible because of father..then it doesn’t matter.

There is an interesting twist that might be relevant to a Supreme COurt....if everyone knew..including the family and the Spooks..that a US citzen was the father ..but they just put Obama Sr on there for national security reasons. Or maybe the real father wasn’t listed for national security reasons and he was not a US citizen. A guy involved with the Bay of Pigs invasion SUPPOSEDLY wrote an email that said a Cuban was the father. He said Ann was pregnant when she left Cuba. I have yet to see anyone that wrote this person to ask him if he wrote that email.

Of course, this is never going to make it the Supreme Cout.. It would be shut down long before then. In fact, maybe that is why it has been shut down. Maybe a US citizen IS his father....or someone else is and none of this can come out because of National Security.

Someone brought up a point that his birth is not the issue...that Obama renounced his citizenship with the State Dept. That would mean Hillary would know it.. I never saw an answer as to how this poster knew that.


104 posted on 02/06/2010 6:09:02 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: butterdezillion

His marriage to African bride would have been recognized. HOWEVER, there are many articles on the web about problems that have taken place in Kenya when the tribal marriage wife shows up at the door to stop a new wedding..and some of these have landed in court.

Obama’s marriage to Ann - even if it was legal in the US (and it wasn’t legal)..still would not have been recognized in Kenya..and that is the root you look to since Sr was Kenyan. It is a convoluted mess.


105 posted on 02/06/2010 6:20:04 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: butterdezillion
"The ombudsman says their response is reasonable because the rules say they MAY (rather than “shall”) release copies, but UIPA says that if something has been specifically authorized for release then it MUST be released. The ombudsman’s office said if I think I’ve been wrongly denied I should take it to the Office of Information Practices (OIP - the watchdog for government transparency). But the OIP is referring all questions of what the DOH needs to do..... to the DOH."

Perhaps DOH is counting on Obama being into his second term before any lawsuit gets up to SCOTUS and back! Have you considered the possibility that Obama's legal team has cut a non-public legal agreement with HI DOH as to exactly which data fields on his long form or short form that Obama explicitly authorizes for release?

The privacy law would seem to block them from releasing anything without permission, while you assert that if they releases anything, they must release everything.

But what if there was this private signed legal release from Obama protecting both parties (and DOH from Obama) that covered just certain fields on the long form, such as "location of birth" which is Honolulu, at least on the amended most recent vital record?

In other words DOH wouldn't be required to release all of Obama's long form data fields because DOH wasn't acting under a release by Obama of all of those fields, but just a few that Obama agreed to release.

Would DOH be required to make public any private agreement they made with Obama to limit release to just a few data fields? I suspect not.

106 posted on 02/06/2010 8:20:41 AM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: RummyChick
“There is no doubt in my mind that the family was involved in intelligence in some fashion.”

In my opinion, that would far more likely be KGB than CIA with Obama’s father likely a KGB controlled Pan-African Marxist coming together with Obama’s grandfather who was affiliating in HI hanging around in bars near the Navy docks with KGB asset, Frank Marshall Davis who had ties back to KGB controlled cells in Chicago.

107 posted on 02/06/2010 8:34:22 AM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp

If they made such an agreement in writing they would be required to release it when asked for it. Of course, they would never admit to having it in writing.

There is SUPPOSED to be a process whereby the DOH gives a legal verification in lieu of a certified copy. That would allow Obama to ask the DOH to verify his place of birth - nothing else - and they would send a certified verification.

Once again, however, the DOH doesn’t seem to allow for their own rules to be followed. I asked them to show me what they send when someone requests a verification in lieu of a certified copy of their birth certificate and they said they send a certified copy of their birth certificate. I’ve asked to see their policies or procedures which provide for the “verification in lieu of a certified copy” - which is the exact terminology used in their Administrative Rules. Haven’t heard back yet. In fact, they may be past their 2-week deadline to reply to me on that one.

There was a response that John Charlton got from Linden Joesting that referred to the possibility that the DOH couldn’t release information because it would jeopardize federal funding. Interesting, because she didn’t include such statements on her formal response to Terri K’s request.

They’ve been giving the “privacy exemption to disclosure” argument to everything, even though the privacy exemption doesn’t apply to what has already been specifically authorized for disclosure. It could be the real reason they won’t disclose is because Obama snuck in some federal funding threat somewhere - maybe in the presidential orders to put all the czars to work on promoting Native Hawaiians/Pacific Islanders programs. I was sure that was payback to the crooks covering for him in Hawaii, but if there was a condition attached to it, it could provide legal cover for the crooks in Hawaii.

But that still has to be disclosed.

But if that is why they are withholding information they are required to give that as their reason - rather than hiding behind a reason that doesn’t even apply.


108 posted on 02/06/2010 8:44:17 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Seizethecarp

Maybe as a double agent..or triple agent..but CIA would have known about the intelligence work.

You really need to understand and read up on Indonesia and what was taking place...Ann was VERY LIKELY involved in intelligence in some way. Don’t forget she was working for the Ford Foundation..and timmy Geithner’s father. CIA was up to their eyeballs in Indonesia..including enlisting Bing Crosby to make a porn tape to try to get rid of the leader. The cutout man they used was very influential..very powerful..and very involved in CIA antics all over the globe..INCLUDING the plot to kill Castro ( oh and he was involved in a certain suitcase to Nixon, too)

It is quite possible Frank Marshall davis was in on it or a target..or a target and then in on it.. He was investigated for years with many pages of investigations by the FBI..but suddenly the investigations stopped the year Kennedy was killed.

Just because you are being investigated by the FBI..doesnt mean you aren’t helping the CIA.....Mafiosos are good examples of this.


109 posted on 02/06/2010 8:45:02 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: Fred Nerks
"THERE'S A BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA ON THE MARRIAGE INDEX.

"-that probably relates to when he married the young woman he brought to Hawaii with him. She's shown standing next to him on arrival, and because he has his arm around her and she around him, they loaded the image up with lei to cover their closeness:"

The lei doctoring is very interesting and you may well be onto an as yet undisclosed relationship with that Asian woman, who is identified in one photo.

But the vital record index release that DOH made was specifically triggered by a request for all indexes for "Barack Hussein Obama" and in my understanding, when a marriage index comes up, it always returns the names of both the bride and groom.

The only reason that Stanley Ann Dunham is included in this specific release from DOH is that she is explicitly a bride of Barack Hussein Obama, for whom the index was requested.

This vital record index release by DOH for the Dunham-Obama marriage places the two of them together in HI. Their HI University transcripts also place them together in HI in the fall of 1960. Stanley Ann's HI transcript is contemporaneously corroborated by the U of Washington where those HI credits were transferred and where the credits also appear on her U of WA transcript.

110 posted on 02/06/2010 8:56:43 AM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: RummyChick
“You really need to understand and read up on Indonesia and what was taking place...Ann was VERY LIKELY involved in intelligence in some way. Don’t forget she was working for the Ford Foundation..and timmy Geithner’s father. CIA was up to their eyeballs in Indonesia..including enlisting Bing Crosby to make a porn tape to try to get rid of the leader.”

I am familiar with what was going on in Indonesia in the 1960’s. Stanley Ann was an enthusiastic communist in high school and married a known Pan-African communist labor agitator who agitated in public on our soil in HI for a KGB controlled union demonstration.

Stanley Ann was much more likely to have been an asset of the KBG in Indonesia, where I believe she worked for a time at the US embassy, than of our CIA. She may have even hooked up with Soetoro to get her to Indonesia under a great cover.
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Just my opinion, based on the extensive reading list covering the good, bad and ugly of publicly reported history of CIA activity that the CIA strongly suggested that all candidates read prior to induction.

111 posted on 02/06/2010 9:10:51 AM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: RummyChick
If all you are arguing is that he is not eligible because of father..then it doesn’t matter.

That is what the definition in Law of Nations says. "of parents who are citizens". So if they are not citizens, doesn't matter what the parents' country or countries of origin considers the offspring.

112 posted on 02/06/2010 9:26:36 AM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: butterdezillion; All

Thanks for the synopsis, update and hard work!

Occasionally you can find a cooperative and helpful public servant, like the clerk who helped reveal the additional pages of the 1964 Obama and 1982 Soetoro divorces in early-January 2009. She was new and because most of the senior staff in the office was on Christmas break, her helpful nature was not tainted by their political agenda. But helpful public servants in Hawaii, who are willing to make available releasable public data on Obama, are few and far between.

The only reason the 1964 Obama divorce papers were found in the first place is that a Hawaiian PI, familiar with the court system there, went in and performed a hand-search of a paper-bound, non-computerized index.

The fact the 1964 divorce took place in the “Circuit Court of the First Judicial Circuit” made it hard enough to find the record; add to it that Obama’s mama used the never-before-heard name of “Stanley Ann D. Obama” made it even more difficult for the PI to discover the records.

That said, the PI indicated that the record VERY much seemed as if it was purposefully hidden from the public record.



113 posted on 02/06/2010 9:33:48 AM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: butterdezillion; All

Seems like a person would have to know whether BHO’s first marriage was recognized by Kenya. If it was a tribal marriage it may not have been legally recognized in Kenya, in which case HRS 572(1)(3)’s meaning of “lawful wife living” would come into play. I would imagine it would depend on whether the marriage was recognized as a legal marriage by the Kenyan government.

Original records of BHO SR’s first marriage would likely be found in the Kadhi’s Courts, which preserved Sharia Law for Muslims in the Mombasa area, as discussed here on FR a few months back.

Myth exposed: Mombasa was NOT part of Zanzibar in 1961

In a third world country like Kenya that is riddled with corruption, a bribe to a public official can help shake loose documentation believed to be "lost" or "did not exist" in the first place ...


114 posted on 02/06/2010 9:50:06 AM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: BP2

The hard part is trying to get a credible report from Kenya, when the corruption is so widely known.

For that matter, we have the same problem with the Hawaii DOH right now...


115 posted on 02/06/2010 9:54:12 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: SpaceBar

If it was 1952 i’d guess he was a KGB agent.


116 posted on 02/06/2010 9:56:35 AM PST by Canedawg (Our government has become a travesty of itself.)
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To: RummyChick

I know that Islam allows up to 4 wives at a time. I’m wondering if Kenya would have any problem recognizing both marriages.

But I think Obama (and his mom) played the international peek-a-boo game all along. For instance, I think he was adopted by Soetoro in Indonesia but never told Hawaii about it so he could get benefits of being Indonesian (foreign student aid, for instance) AND benefits of being American. But I have no way of confirming or refuting that so it has to remain just a hunch.


117 posted on 02/06/2010 10:04:12 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: narses

This is an excellent summation.
Bookmarked.


118 posted on 02/06/2010 10:07:18 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Seizethecarp

“Stanley Ann was an enthusiastic communist in high school and married a known Pan-African communist labor agitator who agitated in public on our soil in HI for a KGB controlled union demonstration.”

And she went to Indonesia when they were torturing people to uncover communists...during one of the bloodiest times in Indonesian history..and dragged along her young son.

IMO,There is no way the CIA didn’t know about her. Given the black hole of info...there is CIA involvement.

I am not sure why you believe she was working for the KGB and the CIA didn’t have a clue ....

She could have been a triple agent..she could have been a double agent..but IMO there is absolutely no way that she solely worked for the KGB.

There is only one way that Obama’s info could stay down such a black hole in the US..and that is the involvement of some three letter outfit... ON OUR SIDE.

If you are familiar with Indonesia then you know there was a Track Two type of situation...

And I am seeing the same thing here in the US...and it started before the election.

The CIA has used many business fronts. A certain airline comes to mind.
Ford Foundation was probably one of them.


119 posted on 02/06/2010 1:26:56 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: butterdezillion

The problem with the marriage to Ann was that there were laws prohibiting a mix of marriages...statutory and tribal..combined with an issue of just how a white women could marry a black man...

If she had gone to Kenya to get married....could she have been married in a statutory way when he was already married in a tribal way (dont think so..but maybe someone pulled some strings) ..and could a white woman marry a black man in a tribal ceremony (not sure)


120 posted on 02/06/2010 1:32:30 PM PST by RummyChick
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