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To: rxsid
"It could have been a polygamous marriage, as it appears that in 1961, polygamy was not outlawed: http://law.jrank.org/pages/11834/Annulment-Prohibited-Marriage-Prohibited-Marriage.html

"It's interesting that folks seem to insist that it was a "bigamous" marriage. Are we to believe the SADO was ignorant enough to not know? Is a polygamous marriage impossible?

"If the existing court document is correct, and polygamy was not illegal in 1961 HI, then in the "eyes" of the BNA of 1948, would they not have been involved in a "legal" marriage?"

rxsid: When I go to the above link I find that HI statute 572-1(3) outlaws bigamous marriages currently. Where do you find that bigamy was legal in HI in 1961? UT was denied entry into the Union until it banned bigamy/polygamy. If HI permitted bigamy/polygamy in 1959, I think it would have been widely reported and statehood opposed until it was banned.

How could SADO know anything of Obama Srs Kenya marriage to Kezia beyond what he chose to tell her? If he didn't tell her, that doesn't make 18-year-old SADO ignorant.

From what I read in the Kenya Marriage Act of 1902, bigamy/polygamy was illegal for all persons including tribal or Muslim marriages and the 1948 BNA only applies to legitimate children of BHO Sr.

Only discovery and litigation on the merits in HI, UK and Kenya would establish whether BHO II was governed by the 1948 BNA and was thus a dual-citizen and subject of the Queen at birth.

130 posted on 02/09/2010 3:34:00 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp
How could SADO know anything of Obama Srs Kenya marriage to Kezia beyond what he chose to tell her? If he didn't tell her, that doesn't make 18-year-old SADO ignorant.

Sure it does. If someone doesn't know something, then he or she actually is ignorant.
131 posted on 02/09/2010 4:01:50 PM PST by aruanan
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To: Seizethecarp
"When I go to the above link I find that HI statute 572-1(3) outlaws bigamous marriages currently."
Correct! However, as I stated prior, I can not find any info regarding "polygamy" in the state of HI in 1961. Bigamy, yes, found it. Outlawed. Polygamy? Don't know. Haven't seen it. Is it possible she knew who he was, and that it was therefore a polygamous marriage? Yes. Possible. After-all, we are talking about a commie hippie type...that sort of "lifestyle" would fit right up their ally (some of them, anyway).

"From what I read in the Kenya Marriage Act of 1902, bigamy/polygamy was illegal for all persons including tribal or Muslim marriages"
That's fine. But were not talking about the Kenyan laws here. He wouldn't have inherited his British "citizenship" via their laws anyway, so that's not in play here. Even his F.T.S. web site doesn't cite the Kenyan laws...only the 1948 BNA.

"the 1948 BNA only applies to legitimate children of BHO Sr."
And there in lies the point. Until it's proven in a court of law, that the marriage was illegal (for whatever reason), the state of HI believed it was a legal marriage. We can discuss and argue all we want on FR. That doesn't overrule the divorce document that states otherwise. I, personally, have no idea weather or not they were legally married. I am not SADO, or Sr., so I don't know the "facts" of the issue. Do I think that "chances" are that it probably wasn't legal. Yeah. Probably not. What I do know for a fact though, is what I see in the HI court documents that lists them as being legally married. I also see his campaign web site as saying his "birth status was governed by Great Britain." Well, how could it have done that if they were not legally married?

So, as I've stated before...let the discovery begin so we can get to the truth of the matter!

"Only discovery and litigation on the merits in HI, UK and Kenya would establish whether BHO II was governed by the 1948 BNA and was thus a dual-citizen and subject of the Queen at birth."
Exactly!

Cheers!

133 posted on 02/09/2010 4:19:16 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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