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Nature's hot green quantum computers revealed
New Scientist ^ | 03 February 2010 | Kate McAlpine

Posted on 02/03/2010 4:47:15 PM PST by neverdem

WHILE physicists struggle to get quantum computers to function at cryogenic temperatures, other researchers are saying that humble algae and bacteria may have been performing quantum calculations at life-friendly temperatures for billions of years.

The evidence comes from a study of how energy travels across the light-harvesting molecules involved in photosynthesis. The work has culminated this week in the extraordinary announcement that these molecules in a marine alga may exploit quantum processes at room temperature to transfer energy without loss. Physicists had previously ruled out quantum processes, arguing that they could not persist for long enough at such temperatures to achieve anything useful.

Photosynthesis starts when large light-harvesting structures called antennas capture photons. In the alga called Chroomonas CCMP270, these antennas have eight pigment molecules woven into a larger protein structure, with different pigments absorbing light from different parts of the spectrum. The energy of the photons then travels across the antenna to a part of the cell where it is used to make chemical fuel.

The route the energy takes as it jumps across these large molecules is important because longer journeys could lead to losses. In classical physics, the energy can only work its way across the molecules randomly. "Normal energy transfer theory tells us that energy hops from molecule to molecule in a random walk, like the path taken home from the bar by a drunken sailor," says Gregory Scholes at the University of Toronto, Canada, one of the co-authors of the paper published in Nature this week (DOI: 10.1038/nature08811).

But Scholes and his colleagues have found that the energy-routeing mechanism may actually be highly efficient. The evidence comes from the behaviour of pigment molecules at the centre of the Chroomonas antenna. The team first excited two of these molecules with a brief laser pulse, causing electrons...

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: photosynthesis; quantumcomputers; quantumsuperposition; solarcells; solarenergy; solarpower
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1 posted on 02/03/2010 4:47:16 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem
Earthshattering news in fact. Next someone pulls strands of DNA from a banana peel to build a super computer.

Actually, the teeny-tiny little quantum computers are not exactly unexpected. They had to be inserted to make it possible for life to sustain itself in the very hostile Earth environment.

2 posted on 02/03/2010 4:54:27 PM PST by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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To: neverdem
I think this is fascinating news.
3 posted on 02/03/2010 4:58:37 PM PST by J Edgar
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To: neverdem
I read a book about evolution relying on quantum computation a few years back --

Quantum Evolution

Probably a lot more things utilize this.

4 posted on 02/03/2010 5:05:47 PM PST by sigSEGV
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To: neverdem

From the Article: “The hope is that quantum coherence could be used to make solar cells more efficient.”

That may indeed work, I’ve estimated that solar cells would have to be 85 to 90+% efficient to be viable for mass-solar electric. Considering we recently broke 20%, IIRC, then this may be a good, and possibly big, leap toward that level of efficiency.


5 posted on 02/03/2010 5:11:41 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: neverdem

Hope he’s right. But the last time chemists encroached into the world of physics, it didn’t turn out very well. That was called cold fusion.


6 posted on 02/03/2010 5:15:17 PM PST by LibWhacker (America awake!)
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To: neverdem
There has been talk in recent years that consciousness itself may be quantum in nature, specifically normal modes of bose-einstein condensates on a biological substrate. This discovery may in fact be evidence in that direction.
7 posted on 02/03/2010 5:19:38 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: LibWhacker
the last time chemists encroached into the world of physics...

You're not familiar with the rather well developed discipline of quantum chemistry? Today's chemists are specialized physicists, not the wet experimental alchemists of yesteryear.
8 posted on 02/03/2010 5:22:43 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: neverdem

God is a friggin Genius...


9 posted on 02/03/2010 5:54:35 PM PST by Paradox (ObamaCare = Logan's Run ; There is no Sanctuary!)
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To: OneWingedShark

Thanks for reminding me about the solar cells.


10 posted on 02/03/2010 5:57:55 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: SpaceBar
There has been talk in recent years that consciousness itself may be quantum in nature, specifically normal modes of bose-einstein condensates on a biological substrate.

Translation?

11 posted on 02/03/2010 6:00:38 PM PST by Ken H (Debt free is the way to be)
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To: Paradox

>God is a friggin Genius...

Yep!


12 posted on 02/03/2010 6:01:24 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Ken H
Wave-like character of an exotic condensed phase of matter that behaves as a large coherent quantum state, usually only observed at extremely low (cold) energies and controlled laboratory conditions.
13 posted on 02/03/2010 6:10:27 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Ken H
Translation?

That's in the realm of theoretical physics and states of matter found in around the temperature near absolute zero and particles sought in experimental particle colliders.

14 posted on 02/03/2010 6:12:34 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: SpaceBar; neverdem
Are they hypothesizing that such a coherency - whether in biological brains or the conditions you described - is what produces consciousness?

Taking it a step further, would such a coherency necessarily require matter?

15 posted on 02/03/2010 7:24:46 PM PST by Ken H (Debt free is the way to be)
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To: Ken H
In short, yeah, that's what has been conjectured. The argument being that consciousness would require a complexity, speed, and macro-coherence not realizable using the standard synapse-neurotransmitter-axion model which is strictly classical. As for the non-substrate model, I haven't heard that discussed directly, but it adds an intriguing dimension to say the least.
16 posted on 02/03/2010 7:46:57 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: SpaceBar

No, you’re right. I don’t know anything about it. As I say, I hope he’s on to something. Perhaps cold fusion and other premature eureka moments have made me too suspicious in my old age.

Love the discussion of quantum consciousness, btw. I had heard of that before and your comment prompted me to Google it to learn more. Fascinating stuff.


17 posted on 02/03/2010 8:55:32 PM PST by LibWhacker (America awake!)
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To: SpaceBar
Interesting stuff. Too bad I'm not some eccentric old billionaire. I'd set up my own institute to study such things.
18 posted on 02/03/2010 8:56:21 PM PST by Ken H (Debt free is the way to be)
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To: LibWhacker

Well don’t be too humbled, it’s one of the most demanding disciplines in the hard sciences. The old methods of chemistry treating atoms as hard spheres with valence charges and so forth is so 19’th century. Now they build up molecules from first principles using techniques called generically ab-initio methods which includes such techniques as the Hartree-Fock method which builds up the quantum wavefunction first of atoms then molecules from discrete elementary quantum wavefunctions representing electrons and protons. As the molecule is built up its electrical and chemical properies such as bond lengths and energies, symmetry, vibrational modes, etc become apparent not through experimentation and wet analytical methods but through brute computation. Such methods are not trivial and generally require a lot of computing power, but there are software packages that can do it on a PC. GAMESS (General Atomic and Molecular Electronic Structure System) is a popular package with a big following. Chemists who use these techniques are really physicists specializing in chemistry. Fascinating stuff really.


19 posted on 02/03/2010 9:21:20 PM PST by SpaceBar
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20 posted on 02/03/2010 10:34:56 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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