Breaking: Reid Signals Support For Reconciliation Vote On Public Option

Who Runs Gov.com ^ | 02/19/10 | Greg Sargent

[Psycho_Bunny]

Keep your laws off my body.

[antonico]

As has been pointed out by none other than Lawrence O'Donnell, Reconciliation will effectively kill the bill. Each and every provision will require a 60-vote cloture to end debate. Reconciliation will give Republicans the chance to kill any provision by hanging together, and the Democrats have to hope that none of them get the jitters and jump ship too. No guarantee these days with so many of them opting out of their own reelections.

In short for the Democrats: Reconciliation = Desperation. And they'll get virtually none of what they really want.

[Huskrrrr]

IS THIS THING EVER GOING TO DIE?

[musicman]

Breaking: Reid Signals Support For Reconciliation Vote On Public Option"

[2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten]

Perfect. Or “The Public Option”.

[A. Morgan]

BINGO!

[steelyourfaith]

Grab your pitchforks and meet me on Capitol Hill.

[OldDeckHand]

"I read something the other day that the parliamentarian can object to provisions that don’t meet the normal criteria for “reconciliation” and the Republicans will be able to offer endless amendments.

That's true. The Congressional Budget Act of 1974 spells out very clearly what can and cannot be passed under the rules of Budget Reconciliation. The so-called "public option", doesn't come anywhere near meeting those rules, IMHO. I really don't think it will make it past the parliamentarian, but anything is possible in corrupt DC.

[montyspython]

"Harry Reid sharing a moment with one of his constituents. Which one is carrying the bong?"

[flying Elvis]

The Dems are going kamikazi on this bill. They must be pretty sure that once it is in place conservatives will never be able to undo it upon retaking congress.

[Dan Nunn]

The so-called "public option", doesn't come anywhere near meeting those rules, IMHO.

That's the thing. They already passed the public option late last year. The "reconciliation" comes where they pass a bill that would "downgrade" what they passed into something palatable for the House to pass by simple majority (after they pass the Senate bill, in quick succession).

[OldDeckHand]

"They must be pretty sure that once it is in place conservatives will never be able to undo it upon retaking congress."

Well, that's a certainty. For the GOP to unwind this abortion, it would have to take back both Houses and the Presidency in 2012. As long as a Dem is in the WH, the veto will end whatever the GOP tries to enact.

[Dan Nunn]

My question is, if it’s not to take effect until 2013, what’s to stop the Republicans from campaigning on a “WE WILL PASS A LAW TO SCRAP THE HEALTH CARE BILL” platform?

I’ve heard no one talk about scrapping it if it passes. Is it not possible by statute, or is it not possible because we won’t have the votes to stop it by our current 2010 predictions?

[traderrob6]

Related...

http://exposingtheleft.blogspot.com/2010/02/obama-writing-health-bill-to-skirt-gop.html

[2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten]

Kind of looks like

Trick or Treat!

[Road Warrior ‘04]

There’s a very good possibility, that if this abomination passes, that it could be struck down by the Supreme Court.

[Canedawg]

He knows that he and they are going down. If they want to go down in flames, that’s their choice.

[dforest]

If you delete all the BS here, the communist dem party is saying that they think none of you pussys will fight our passage of a commie healthcare bill, and they are probably right.

Hellooooooo...does anyone care?

[animal172]

You don’t think he has 51 votes?

[Dan Nunn]

There’s a very good possibility, that if this abomination passes, that it could be struck down by the Supreme Court.

That would be my worst case scenario, with the timeline that they deal with cases on.