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5 Reasons Illegal Immigrants Shouldn't Be Given American Citizenship
Townhall.com ^ | February 23, 2010 | John Hawkins

Posted on 02/23/2010 5:56:58 AM PST by Kaslin

Over the last few months most conservatives have quite naturally been distracted by Barack Obama's frightening incompetence, his elephantine spending, and his zealous attempts to swallow as much of the private sector as the government beast can stuff down its gaping maw. But while the cat's away, the mice will play. The little feet you may have been hearing pitter-patter back into the public square? They belong to advocates of amnesty for illegal aliens. Oh, they don't necessarily call it that. They call it comprehensive immigration reform, earned legalization, a path to citizenship -- but, it all amounts to the same thing: rewarding people for breaking our laws.

On behalf of the overwhelming majority of the conservative movement and the American people, let me say, "Not just ‘no,’ but ‘Hell, no’" to giving illegal immigrants American citizenship.

Now, I know what the response to this will be: "You must hate Hispanics!" Actually, it doesn't matter where the illegals are from; they're not welcome here. But, but, but...it'll help the GOP with Hispanics to support amnesty! Tell that to John McCain, who bombed with Hispanics despite being the Republican most associated with amnesty. Well, then you must not want any immigrants in this country! What a despicable argument. Comparing an illegal alien to someone who loves and respects this country enough to come here the right way is like comparing a burglar to an adopted son.

Let me tell you exactly why illegal immigrants shouldn't be given American citizenship.

1) It will only encourage more illegal immigrants to come here. We've already had a "one time only" amnesty deal for illegals. It occurred during the Reagan Administration and the idea was supposed to be that we'd allow the illegals who were here to become citizens and we'd simultaneously beef up security to try to keep the problem from occurring again. Well, guess what? That very bipartisan sounding compromise didn't work. To the contrary, it failed miserably. So why in the world would anyone who actually wants to stop illegal immigration want to try something that has already been proven to be counterproductive? We have far more illegals in America today than we did when the "one time" amnesty went through. Do we want 20 million illegals here when the next amnesty goes through? 30 million? Are we going to be accused of racism if we say the next huge wave of illegals shouldn't be given citizenship either? Where does it end?

2) Illegal aliens take jobs from American citizens. The economy stinks. American citizens are out of work. People are going out every day looking for jobs to support their family and they're coming home empty handed. Meanwhile, there are illegal aliens in this country holding jobs that American citizens would otherwise have. "Oh, but those are jobs Americans won't do!" There's no such thing. There's no job in this country that couldn't be filled if every illegal disappeared tomorrow -- but, here's the catch: the crooked business owners who are knowingly hiring the illegals might have to pay what the job is worth instead of hiring people who let everyone else pay their health care, pay their car insurance, and pay their share of the taxes.

3) We're importing poverty. It's no secret that the majority of illegals are uneducated manual laborers. In fact, that's supposed to be one of their selling points, isn't it? Don't advocates of amnesty say we need illegals to do the dirty, hard, manual labor that "Americans won't do?" But even if that were true, which it’s not, people with very limited skills often turn into liabilities for a society as they age. There aren't a lot of people picking oranges and scrubbing floors at fifty years old. In other words, in order to help crooked business owners get cheap labor today, the rest of society has to be burdened with people who are going to cost society far more than they ever pay in taxes. Are American taxpayers so unburdened that we want to actually bring in even more people to carry on their backs?

4) It rewards bad behavior. It's against the law to enter this country illegally. It's against the law to buy fake documents or steal someone's social security number. It's against the law not to pay your taxes. So after all of that, we're going to give people citizenship? What message does that send to all the immigrants filling out reams of paperwork, paying out significant chunks of their paychecks, and waiting for years in their home countries to finally achieve their dream of becoming an American citizen? Here's the message it sends: You're a chump! This is something you don't normally have to say to people north of five years old, but it's not smart to reward bad behavior and punish good behavior.

5) It cheapens and demeans our country. Is this Cuba? Is this Afghanistan? Is this Rwanda? Are we such a garbage dump of a nation that we have to desperately give citizenship to anybody and everybody we can find? Newsflash: This is the greatest nation God has seen fit to raise up in the history of mankind. We can not only have the cream of the crop from other nations; we can ask them to wait in line, obey our laws, and prove themselves -- and the ones worth having will do it because this is the place people all over the world dream of coming one day. American citizenship is a precious thing and it shouldn't be given to people whose first act upon American soil was to violate our laws.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2010; againstthelaw; aliens; becausetheyrillegal; illegalalieninvaders; illegalaliens; illegalmeansillegal; immigrantlist; invaders
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1 posted on 02/23/2010 5:56:58 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Uh—because they are, by definition, breaking the law?


2 posted on 02/23/2010 5:58:18 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Kaslin

Was heckled by Hispanic teenagers the other day over a U.S. flag shirt I was wearing. Told me I needed to get one with Mexico’s flag colors. If I were to say such in Mexico it would lead to a beat down. Interesting that we put up with that in this country.


3 posted on 02/23/2010 5:59:52 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Kaslin

Only 5?

Is one of them “because they are illegal”?


4 posted on 02/23/2010 6:00:05 AM PST by my small voice (A biased media and an uneducated public is the biggest threat to our democracy)
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To: Kaslin

$$$$$ There.


5 posted on 02/23/2010 6:02:51 AM PST by doodad
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To: Kaslin
3) We're importing poverty
6) We're importing fatal diseases.
6 posted on 02/23/2010 6:03:39 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Kaslin

they have zero respect for this country. they have already
been rewarded with billions in freebies. they will and already
benefit from affirmative action.


7 posted on 02/23/2010 6:05:24 AM PST by gussiefinknottle (woof!woof!woof!)
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To: Kaslin; All

The government has NO IDEA how many illegals are here. They damn sure didn’t count them on the way in and have no way of counting them now.

Furthermore, nearly ALL of them have bogus identification, which includes all the violent/sexual predator fugitives from Mexico that the Mexican Police are relieved crossed into our “welcoming arms”.

Most people interviewed in Mexico would leave the place for the US but would consider their allegiance to Mexico, not to the US.

I have said it before, but will repeat as necessary. Illegals enjoy many of the Bill of Rights, what happens when they decide to exercise the 2nd Amendment? Will we call them immigrants or armed invaders?


8 posted on 02/23/2010 6:08:09 AM PST by Molon Labbie
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To: Kaslin

7) You’re importing crime.

8) It breaks apart the social bonds that holds your nation together.

9) Most of them will vote for socialism.


9 posted on 02/23/2010 6:13:11 AM PST by LastNorwegian
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To: Kaslin

6. Heritage research has concluded that the cost of amnesty alone would be $2.6 trillion. And the number of additional LEGAL immigrants who would join those who were the recipients of amnesty through chain migration, i.e., family reunification, would approach 70 million over a 20-year period, assuming there are only 12 million illegal aliens. We cannot assimilate such numbers. An amnesty would destroy the United States of America with the stroke of a pen. Amnesty is forever.


10 posted on 02/23/2010 6:15:50 AM PST by kabar
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

What did you do? Did you “put up with it”?


11 posted on 02/23/2010 6:17:36 AM PST by jackibutterfly
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To: All

Only need one reason.........

THEY’RE ILLEGAL!!!!!!!!!!


12 posted on 02/23/2010 6:20:12 AM PST by Boonie
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To: Kaslin
- Our corrupted, self-serving government has no intention of enforcing border security and/or immigration laws once this "amnesty" is granted, just as it did not back in the '80s.

Fool me once, shame on you...

13 posted on 02/23/2010 6:23:18 AM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Molon Labbie
ALL of them have bogus identification; including violent/sexual predator fugitives that the Mexican Police are relieved crossed into our “welcoming arms”. Most people interviewed in Mexico would leave the place for the US but would consider their allegiance to Mexico, not to the US.....

A 2009 poll of Mexicans showed Mexicans in America---including those born in the United States---are more Loyal to Mexico than the US.

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QUOTING FORMER CONG TOM TANCREDO (R-Colo) Juan Hernandez headed up the Mexican govt agency, "Ministry of Mexicans Living in the United States. Hernandez is a dual citizen of the United States and Mexico, and a good friend of then-presidents Bush and Mexico's Vicente Fox." Hernandez was presidential candidate John McCain's Hispanic outreach man.

Hernandez explained to Cong Tancredo the purpose of the Mexican government agency: Ministry of Mexicans Living in the United States:

(1) to increase the flow of Mexican nationals to the United States.....

(2) to compel Mexican nationals in the US to serve Mexico’s needs;

(3) to increase US remittances to Mexico of $50 billion a year (30% of the Mexican GDP);

(4) to get US jobs for an exploding Mexican population, alleviating Mexico's social instability due to rising unemployment;

(5) to get free US training for Mexicans, who are expected to return and repatriate those skills back to Mexico.

Hernandez supports amnesty: "By populating the United States with millions of Hispanics tied economically, politically and linguistically to Mexico, we are able to exert enormous influence and pressure on US policy and its dealings with Mexico."

SOURCE http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=33894

NOTE: " Exerting enormous influence and pressure on US policy and its dealings with Mexico" means extorting billions of US tax dollars to subsidize corrupt Third World federales.

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Oct 25, 2009 American Patrol Report---Savage Zetas, descendants of the Aztecs, known for beheading and dismembering their enemies, are integrating their primitive savagery into the US.

In his groundbreaking book, Wakeup Call from Mexico, Wilson Beck describes how the dark side of Mexico stretches back to the days of the Aztecs when hundreds of thousands of people were sacrificed and eaten each year. He says today many young men in Mexico are enamored with the idea of being descendants of the Aztecs.

Now, according to the Houston Chronicle, the brutal savage Zetas, known for beheading and dismembering their enemies, are tightening their grip on an area bordering Southern Texas.

Critics say our CIA and State Department are well aware of the dark side of Mexico and regularly brief U.S. presidents on the reality south of the border. “It is unfortunate that Mexico got off to such a bad start,” said Glenn Spencer of the American Patrol Report,” but it is wrong to sacrifice the United States of America to correct problems south of the border.”

Spencer said while Mexicans are being besieged, which is nothing new for them, Americans are being betrayed by a government that refuses to protect them. Despite this, President Bush and now President Obama have been secretly working to integrate the US and Mexico into a common political and economic unit.

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Congressman Becerra Laughs At The Pledge of Allegiance an SEIU Immigration Rally
SEIU / CHIRLA Immagration Rally | 2-22-10 | FR Posted by joinedafterattack

Congressman Xavier Becerra (D-CA) Laughs When Someone Suggests Opening an Immagration Rally With The Pledge of Allegiance. Not until the Congressman is specifically confronted does he and the CHIRLA/SEIU rally leader agree that not to do so would be mistake. However, the natural inclination was to dismiss the suggestion. VIDEO Date 2-19-10, location is the Los Angeles SEIU offices. Becerra is the one in the dark suit seated on stage.

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"IDENTITY FRAUD CENTRAL" Two Texans busted in bogus ID operation in NJ

NORTH BERGEN, NJ -- July 21, 2006 -- Pelcastre brothers, Angel and Jorge, Dallas, Texas, were a walking threat to US national security, expert document forgers who, for a few thousand dollars, could give anyone a new identity, authorities said.

The Texas brothers turned a NJ hotel room into a business office and were readying a massive cache of fake Social Security cards for delivery to a local NJ identity broker.

The Texas brothers were a "one-stop shop" for a myriad of fake US documents, including birth certificates, Social Security cards, driver's licenses for any state in the US, passports and resident alien cards, said state police. Officers happened upon two cars bearing Texas plates in a NJ hotel parking lot. Authorities wouldn't identify the NJ hotel by name for fear it would spark retribution. The Drug Interdiction Task Force, regularly runs checks.

The Texas brothers were followed to a NJ office supply store nearby where they purchased computer supplies. Officers then followed the Texans to a NJ storage facility in Secaucus, NJ, where the Texans loaded several boxes into a car. One of them stood lookout.

Authorities approached the Texas brothers when they returned to the NJ hotel and questioned them separately. The Texas brothers consented to a search.

Police recovered laminating sheets with built-in security features, pages of blank documents waiting for fake names and information, finished documents, computers and software to create the fake IDs. All told, the haul was worth about $500,000 on the street.

Police also recovered $6,000 in cash, which was the first payment from a NJ fake document broker for a shipment of 500 Social Security cards.

14 posted on 02/23/2010 6:30:29 AM PST by Liz (A person who smiles in the face of adversity probably has a scapegoat nearby.)
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To: Kaslin

Once again, citizenship is being confused with residency. Illegals don’t fight to get here just so they can vote, they come for economic purposes and just being here is all they want. Citizenship is a tool used by politicians to get new voters when all the illegals want is Green Cards i.e; Resident Alien permits. The citizenship tool should be taken off the table and away from politicians.


15 posted on 02/23/2010 6:36:04 AM PST by balls
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To: Kaslin

The ruling class quietly gets what it wants: cheap labor subsidized by the taxpayer. The fact that the labor is illegal makes it that much more exploitable.


16 posted on 02/23/2010 6:36:35 AM PST by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius, (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: balls

You are making an excellent point


17 posted on 02/23/2010 6:53:12 AM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for Obama: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

why is it if you get busted running a 5-watt pirate radio station you go on a list and are ineligible to ever apply to own a legitimate licensed station, but you can willfully break immigration laws and yet become a US Citizen?


18 posted on 02/23/2010 7:03:02 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

I hope you told those punks to go to Mexico if they want to see a Mexican flag.


19 posted on 02/23/2010 7:11:25 AM PST by Nea Wood (Silly liberal . . . paychecks are for workers!)
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To: balls
Illegals don’t fight to get here just so they can vote, they come for economic purposes and just being here is all they want. Citizenship is a tool used by politicians to get new voters when all the illegals want is Green Cards i.e; Resident Alien permits.

You're so right. I remember Bush trying to pull the wool over our eyes, saying, "Oh, it's not amnesty because I'm not for giving them automatic citizenship!" Well, big deal. He still wanted to let them STAY...which is all they want, anyway!

20 posted on 02/23/2010 7:14:57 AM PST by Nea Wood (Silly liberal . . . paychecks are for workers!)
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