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Karl Rove: I wasn’t George Bush’s brain; strategist defends ex-president’s intellect
MSNBC ^ | March 5, 2010 | Mike Celizic

Posted on 03/06/2010 3:44:14 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bush was a successful and popular Governor without Rove. The Dem script is and was that he is stupid. He was imminently more qualified than the current idiot in the WH.


41 posted on 03/06/2010 5:57:16 PM PST by FTJM
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To: hstacey

Odd how we know W’s grades but just have to take it on faith that zero is the most intelligent person with the highest IQ to ever hold the office.

Also we have to take it as a given by the MSM and the celebrities that all Republicans are stupid and all rat are geniuses.


42 posted on 03/06/2010 6:41:44 PM PST by Aria ( "The US republic will endure until Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the people's $.")
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To: Elsiejay

You mean like this list:
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“Why is Saddam attempting to develop nuclear weapons when most nations don’t even try, and responsible nations that have them attempt to limit the potential for disaster?” - Senator John Kerry (9 Oct 2002 Congressional testimony)

“In his four years since inspectors left, intelligence reports indicate that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability and his nuclear program.” - Senator Hillary Clinton (Oct 2002 Congressional Testimony)

“Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs have continued apace...” - Senator Bob Graham (Dec 2001)

“There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggresively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have a nuclear weapon in the next five years.” - Senator Jay D. Rockefeller (Oct 2002 Congressional Testimony)

“Intelligence reports also indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons, but has not yet achieved nuclear capability.” - Senator Robert Byrd (Oct 2002 Congressional Testimony)

“We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction program.” — President Bill Clinton on Feb. 17, 1998.

“(Saddam Hussein) will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has 10 times since 1983.” — Sandy Berger, the national security adviser to President Clinton, on Feb. 18, 1998.

“(Saddam Hussein) has chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies.” — Madeleine Albright, secretary of state in the Clinton administration, on Nov. 10, 1999.

“There is no doubt that . . . Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies.” — Sen. Bob Graham of Florida, among others, in a letter to President George W. Bush, on Dec., 5, 2001.

“We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandates of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them.” — Sen. Carl Levin of Michigan on Sept. 19, 2002. (Sen. Levin now has demanded that President Bush set a timetable for the withdrawal of American troops from Iraq, but he isn’t fooling anybody. He was clearly part of this pro-war plot.)

“We know that (Saddam Hussein) has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country . . . . Iraq’s search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter, and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power.” — Al Gore on Sept. 23, 2002. (The former vice president could sound remarkably like the current one. Clearly both veeps were in this together.)

“We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction.” — Sen. Ted Kennedy, Sept. 27, 2002. Yes, the same Ted Kennedy who would later claim that President Bush and his cronies cooked up this war on his ranch in Texas, but that was probably just to mislead us.

“The last U.N. weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retained some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capability. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons . . . .” — Sen. Robert Byrd of West Virginia, who nevertheless would oppose the war, on Oct. 3, 2002.

“When I vote to give the president of the United States the authority to use force, if necessary, to disarm Saddam Hussein, it is because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a threat — and a grave threat — to our security . . . .” — Sen. John F. Kerry of Massachusetts on Oct. 9, 2002.

“Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime. We all know the litany of his offenses. He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation . . . . And now he is miscalculating America’s response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction. That is why the world, through the United Nations Security Council, has spoken with one voice, demanding that Iraq disclose its weapons program and disarm. So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real, but it is not new.” — Sen. John F. Kerry again, this time on Jan. 23, 2003.

“In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al-Qaida members . . . . It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons.” — Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, now of New York, on Oct. 10, 2002.


Goodness. So many conspirators. That ranch house outside Crawford, Tex., where Ted Kennedy told us the war was hatched, must have been awfully crowded.

Of course there are those who portray all these conspirators as just innocent victims of intelligence reports manipulated by the Bush administration and carefully fed to innocents like Bill Clinton, Al Gore, John Kerry and so many other Washington figures known for their simple naivete.

Unfortunately for that theory, one bipartisan investigation after another into the collection and interpretation of pre-war intelligence has found no evidence of such manipulation.

To quote the Senate Intelligence Committee’s unanimous report back in 2004, “The Committee did not find any evidence that Administration officials attempted to coerce, manipulate, influence or pressure analysts to change their judgments related to Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction capabilities.” Which is a fairly sweeping judgment. The independent Robb-Silberman Committee reached similar conclusions.

Jay Rockefeller, the ranking Democratic member of the Senate Intelligence Committee, signed on to the committee’s report but, almost as soon as it was out, he began charging that the Bush administration had coerced, influenced or pressured analysts to reach the conclusions it had wanted. Maybe not directly, but somehow. Just how, like Sen. Rockefeller’s reasoning, remains sketchy.

And, yes, this is the same Jay Rockefeller who, on Oct. 10, 2002, had declared: “There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years . . . .We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction.”
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I didn’t write this, I just copied it. Probably from FR. I keep a copy of it just to contravert any idjit libs. I like to tell ‘em “can’t refute their own published words”.


43 posted on 03/06/2010 8:35:28 PM PST by hadit2here ("Most men would rather die than think. Many do." - Bertrand Russell)
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To: bitterohiogunclinger

“Just listen to him for ten minutes without his teleprompter.”

Who, Uhbama?

The guy who went to all 57 states?


44 posted on 03/06/2010 9:04:26 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: hadit2here

Thanks, friend. That helps remind all of us. I have all that and more in my files, but hadn’t thought to store it for ready use on the internet. Senate Concurrent Resolution 71, Condemning Iraq’s Threat to International Peace and Security, January 18, 1998, also is a good reference. I believe Daschle was then Senate Majority Ldr.


45 posted on 03/06/2010 9:19:15 PM PST by Elsiejay (.)
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To: Eagles6

Unconventional — according to a friend of mine who was there. A Weapons Inspector who found WMDs and was told he did not.


46 posted on 03/06/2010 9:36:07 PM PST by fred2008
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Oh, I have no doubt. A good friend was there in the initial invasion. They found stuff that would have armed terrorist armies for a thousand years.

Supposedly the poop was the disinformation campaign was to limit blowback against the french, germans, russians and chinese who were all supplying iraq with illegal weapons and products. I guess we needed their goodwill in the long run.

Let's not forget that pesky Oil For Food Program that hasn't seen the light of day for years.

47 posted on 03/06/2010 9:47:19 PM PST by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck.)
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To: BluH2o
"Obama, on the other hand ... refuses to release his grades. ... why?

My guess is that he never took an economics course, he obviously failed his statistics course, and his electives were things like "The Moral Triumph of Joseph Stalin" and "Causes of Republican Mental Diseases."

48 posted on 03/06/2010 9:50:08 PM PST by cookcounty (Let us not speak of the honor of men. Rather, let us bind them with the Constitution. --Jefferson)
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To: Qwackertoo
Or the discovery of Libya's secret nuclear program.
49 posted on 03/06/2010 11:44:33 PM PST by Chgogal (American Mugabe, get your arse out of my bank, my car, my doctor's office & my elec. utility.)
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To: what's up

“Bush & Rove...both good, good men.”

Good men don’t support organizations like La Raza.


50 posted on 03/08/2010 9:57:31 AM PST by Favor Center (Targets Up! Hold hard and favor center!)
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Good men don’t support organizations like La Raza.

...or CAIR.

51 posted on 03/08/2010 9:58:26 AM PST by TADSLOS (Tea Party. We are the party of NO! NO to more government! NO to more spending! NO to more taxation!)
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To: TADSLOS

“...or CAIR.”

Indeed.


52 posted on 03/08/2010 10:04:59 AM PST by Favor Center (Targets Up! Hold hard and favor center!)
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