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1 posted on 03/12/2010 9:51:13 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

There will be another ice age w/i the next 1000 yrs whether we like it or not, and regardless of our use of CO2. And yes, it will be the end of civilization as we know it, assuming BHO doesn’t get there first.


2 posted on 03/12/2010 9:54:43 PM PST by uscabjd
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To: neverdem
“If we hadn’t appeared on the earth, it would be due to go through another ice age and we can look at our part as holding that up.

“I hate all this business about feeling guilty about what we’re doing.

“We’re not guilty, we never intended to pump CO2 into the atmosphere, it’s just something we did.”

Interesting perspective. I simply do not think that science supports the hypothesis that man-made carbon dioxide emissions is causing the earth to warm, which is still fundamental to the 90 year old Dr.'s claim. We are not holding up an ice age, nor are we causing hurricanes or other weather related catastrophes. As such, while the Dr. sounds like a lovable creature, I have to cast him aside -- let me rephrase that so people do not think I am in favor of death panels -- I have to ignore him and wish him a good day.

4 posted on 03/12/2010 10:00:43 PM PST by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: neverdem

A man just has to learn to adjust and adapt. No one ever promised us a perfect world.


5 posted on 03/12/2010 10:03:24 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (A proud American-American since 1949.)
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To: neverdem

Anybody that would like to thank me for saving your lives by driving an SUV, can send $$ to.....


8 posted on 03/12/2010 10:10:54 PM PST by Hypo
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To: neverdem

Just another MSM rube still trying to sell the Goracles KoolAid for him.


10 posted on 03/12/2010 10:24:32 PM PST by Right Wing Agitator (I Love Keeping Liberals Angry!)
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To: neverdem
James has JTS'd

We've won.

18 posted on 03/12/2010 11:34:06 PM PST by PeaceBeWithYou (De Oppresso Liber! (50 million and counting in Afganistan and Iraq))
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19 posted on 03/13/2010 12:41:09 AM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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20 posted on 03/13/2010 1:13:08 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (I am Ellie Light.)
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To: neverdem
According to Dr Lovelock’s Gaia theory,

Oh, no. Another Gaia believer.

21 posted on 03/13/2010 1:15:37 AM PST by Rocky (Obama's policy: A thousand points of lies.)
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To: neverdem

Whoa! What a complete flip-flop from one of the High Priests of Gorebal Warming. Lovelock has either gone totally senile or realizes the fraud has been outed and it’s CYA time.


22 posted on 03/13/2010 1:27:36 AM PST by jsh3180
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To: neverdem

I had a rather passionate geology prof in college who always went on about how much he loved smog, because it was keeping us safe from something catastrophic. I probably wasn’t paying attention enough in class to not remember what it was, but I remember two things about the class: his gratitude, to the point of tears, over particles in the air as protection for the earth, and how unfair it was that we had to learn about the plate tectonics on MARS too, when I thought I’d only signed up for EARTH geology...


23 posted on 03/13/2010 1:47:37 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: neverdem
DID EARLY AGRICULTURE AND DEFORESTATION (3000 BC) PREVENT ICE AGE?

From UNIVERSITY of WISCONSIN (Dec. 2008)

SAN FRANCISCO — The common wisdom is that the invention of the steam engine and the advent of the coal-fueled industrial age marked the beginning of human influence on global climate.

But gathering physical evidence, backed by powerful simulations on the world's most advanced computer climate models, is reshaping that view and lending strong support to the radical idea that human-induced climate change began not 200 years ago, but thousands of years ago with the onset of large-scale agriculture in Asia and extensive deforestation in Europe.

What's more, according to the same computer simulations, the cumulative effect of thousands of years of human influence on climate is preventing the world from entering a new glacial age, altering a clockwork rhythm of periodic cooling of the planet that extends back more than a million years. . .

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2008-12/uow-sde121708.php

25 posted on 03/13/2010 2:50:52 AM PST by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: neverdem

What is the latest Doomsday version du jour?

It’s an ice age we are doomed.

No it’s global warming we are doomed.

No it’s the Ozone layer disappearing we are doomed.

No it’s a meteor we are doomed.

No it’s a dark star hurling comets and meteors at us we are doomed.

No it’s the sun spots we are doomed.

No it’s 2012 the Mayan’s predicted we are doomed.

The planet is over populated we are doomed.

Am I the only one that sees that this is all BS?


27 posted on 03/13/2010 3:10:57 AM PST by seawolf101
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To: neverdem; Fractal Trader; tubebender; marvlus; Genesis defender; markomalley; Carlucci; ...
Thanx !

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

32 posted on 03/13/2010 5:19:06 AM PST by steelyourfaith (Warmists as "traffic light" apocalyptics: "Greens too yellow to admit they're really Reds."-Monckton)
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To: neverdem
According to Dr Lovelock’s Gaia theory, the earth is capable of curing itself. “A planet that is effectively alive can regulate itself and its composition and climate,” he said.

Wow. What a 'radical' theory. Dr Lovelock must be an escaped psycho.

Then again, he's got 4.5 Billion years of the earth's existence to back him up. While the Global Warming Cultists have a phony, manipulated, 'computer model' on their side.

Gee, this is a tough one to pick sides on: the Earth or a Computer model... hmmmm???

[However Lovelock should dump that 'Gaia' garbage.]

34 posted on 03/13/2010 5:29:36 AM PST by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits [A. Einstein])
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To: neverdem

The Milankovitch Cycles are not as regular as most people assume. There is a lot of variation over time.

The forward projections for the Milankovitch Cycle show that this will be an unusually long interglacial period.

Summer Solar insolation in the far north, which when it declines enough kicks off an ice age, is not projected to fall enough to cause an ice age for at least 15,000 years (and it might take even 50,000 years).


37 posted on 03/13/2010 7:03:43 AM PST by JustDoItAlways
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To: neverdem

Don buy this crap, on a global level man cannot effect long term climate one bit, to think otherwise is hubristic.


38 posted on 03/13/2010 7:10:05 AM PST by Mike Darancette (You know Obama is in trouble when the MSM mentions that he is half white.)
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To: neverdem
There is no such thing as Greenhouse gasses and I want my freon and aerosol cans back.

Pray for America

47 posted on 03/13/2010 10:29:09 AM PST by bray (Throw All the Bums Out, starting with McCain)
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To: neverdem
In La Grange, Illinois which is about 20 miles west of Chicago, there's a ridge that resulted from glaciers melting. It's clear a certain amount of global warming occurred without man's intervention, and that is was a good thing.
49 posted on 03/13/2010 11:00:31 AM PST by The Truth Will Make You Free
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