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To: jenk

This is an interesting window on the RC left, which has insidiously infiltrated the church, including apparently the religious orders. It is very interesting, for religious orders historically have been a model for collectivist political movements. They are themselves rather communistic.

In the 20th Century, the RC Church tended to support fascism over communism, but both are forms of collectivism. The “Common Good” movement promoted in the “Catholics United” website is merely warmed-over fascism-socialism-communism. It has no strong American roots.

As a non-Catholic, I have always admired the courage of many Catholics in standing up for life. But the RC church is infected (just like much of mainstream Protestantism), and it is very weak. It seems to have turned its back on the strong strain of individualism which has roots in Christian doctrine. In the “Common Good” movement, the left-faction tries to realize Christianity in communitarian social-welfarism at the national level. I say that’s fascism, and I say to Hell with it! I don’t care if 50,000 nuns like it: it’s still poison.


15 posted on 03/19/2010 5:34:06 AM PDT by docbnj
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To: docbnj

agreed.


17 posted on 03/19/2010 5:37:46 AM PDT by jenk (REMEMBER MASSACHUSETTS!!)
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To: docbnj
“I don’t care if 50,000 nuns like it: it’s still poison.”

And I strongly suspect that yesterday's stories of 50,000 nuns supporting ObamaCare we're as bogus as this groups tenuous claims to represent “Catholics”.

19 posted on 03/19/2010 5:45:35 AM PDT by bitterohiogunclinger (America held hostage - day 393)
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To: docbnj
In the 20th Century, the RC Church tended to support fascism over communism

The concentration camps and murders of priests and nuns indicate otherwise. The Church has been persecuted by fascism, from Mussolini to Mexico to Hitler to Chavez. Twentieth-century fascists, being socialists, can't stand the idea of an authority greater than the government.

The Communists described Franco, a serious Catholic, as a fascist, but that was because he let the Nazis bomb Soviet positions in Spain during the Spanish Civil War. When Hitler came looking for favors in return, Franco blew him off.

22 posted on 03/19/2010 6:15:31 AM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: docbnj
Oh geez, it's not "50,000 nuns."

It's another case of "A lie can run all the way around the world while the Truth is still tying its shoes"---


USCCB News Release

March 18, 2010
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Clarification

Washington—A recent letter from Network, a social justice lobby of sisters, grossly overstated whom they represent in a letter to Congress that was also released to media.

Network’s letter, about health care reform, was signed by a few dozen people, and despite what Network said, they do not come anywhere near representing 59,000 American sisters.

The letter had 55 signatories, some individuals, some groups of three to five persons. One endorser signed twice.

There are 793 religious communities in the United States.

The math is clear. Network is far off the mark.

Sister Mary Ann Walsh
Director of Media Relations
United States Conference of Catholic Bishops


Did you ever notice that there is more demon-activity in the short space of the Four Gospels than there is in the whole rest of the Bible, Old Testament and New Testament combined?

Do you notice where the demons are attacking now?

Do you wonder why?

24 posted on 03/19/2010 6:21:53 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("An enemy hath done this." Matthew 13:28)
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