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Fearful Tenants Say Count Me Out Of Census
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2010/3/28/fearful_tenants_say_count_me_out_of_census.html ^ | 3-29-10 | Saul Saenz

Posted on 03/29/2010 6:05:36 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather

PIERSON -- The population in Pierson is estimated at 2,600, but even the mayor believes it could be higher than that.

Migrant workers, not all of them here legally, make up a big part of the fern capital of the world. Few know just how many live in anonymity.

Census forms have arrived in the mail, but not everyone is filling them out.

"No, I have not filled it out,” said Alejandrina Hernandez. “Because it is in English."

The language barrier is only one reason.

Even though census officials say all information given to that agency will be used by only that agency, illegal immigrants are reluctant to expose where they live out of fear.

(Excerpt) Read more at cfnews13.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 2010census; census; census2010; fearful; florida; illegalimmigration; illegals; tenants; unconstitutional
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"Workers say the main reason they do not fill out the form is because the information included in that form could be used against them."
1 posted on 03/29/2010 6:05:37 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather
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in that form could be used against them."

..eyep, that's what I heard

2 posted on 03/29/2010 6:09:01 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)
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"Workers say the main reason they do not fill out the form is because the information included in that form could be used against them."

I just filled out the part that said how many people lived at my house and I indicated that their race was "Human". I gave no further information as they are not entitled to any more.

3 posted on 03/29/2010 6:09:03 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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illegal immigrants are reluctant to expose where they live out of fear.

Excellent.

4 posted on 03/29/2010 6:09:18 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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"Workers say the main reason they do not fill out the form is because the information included in that form could be used against them."

If only. As it is, the more illegal aliens who fill out census forms, the more state representatives are assigned to that state.

5 posted on 03/29/2010 6:11:42 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: P-Marlowe

I did put names and ages - reason being, the names and ages on early 20th century forms has made my genealogy research easier - I’d like to do my descendants that favor.


6 posted on 03/29/2010 6:12:56 AM PDT by RockinRight (Obama Logic: Global Warming causes blizzards, and deficit spending balances budgets.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Remove that barrier, LEARN TO READ, SPEAK AND UNDERSTAND THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE.

It is a solution that Tens/hundreds of MILLIONS of immigrants have done before them.

Then, you don’t have to go sneaking around, only keeping to your own which only isolates you!


7 posted on 03/29/2010 6:16:18 AM PDT by BatGuano (You don't think I'd go into combat with loose change in my pocket, do ya?)
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To: P-Marlowe

Marked it ‘human’? That just means more federal resources go to whatever races you aren’t.


8 posted on 03/29/2010 6:18:31 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: RockinRight
I did put names and ages - reason being, the names and ages on early 20th century forms has made my genealogy research easier - I’d like to do my descendants that favor.

Constitutionally they are not entitled to that information and that information is available through other, less invasive means and with constitutional authority.

You do your descendants no favors by giving the Federal Government more power than they are entitled to wield. The Census was used by the Germans to round up Jews.

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Persecution at the hands of the French

How the French contributed to the overall consequences of the Final Solution and French initiatives towards to the Jews: the Vel d’Hiv roundup and Drancy

The initial establishment of concentration camps in France was a result of the French government, not because of pressure of the Germans.  At first intended for foreign Jews, people were held in insufferable conditions under which they perished before the first convoys were even sent to Auschwitz.  These foreign Jews in internment camps “were the first casualties of the Holocaust in France, and they died because of French, not German, persecution (Zuccotti 67).  In fact, it was even said that after the Germans took over control of Drancy, conditions at the camp improved (Marrus and Paxton 253).

Europe in 1942 sent a context in which the greatest roundups, deportations, and implementation of the Final Solution could be carried out.  After German invaded the Soviet Union, the war took on an even deeper anti-communist tone, thereby placing more blame on the Jews under the image of Jewish communists (Poznanski 207).  In 1942 Germany assumed the total occupation of France. 

The effects of the Holocaust in France could not have been felt in the way that they were had it not been for the collaboration of the French police with the German authorities in the roundups of Jews.  The Germans did not have the resources in France to carry out extensive manhunts that resulted in the vast number of Jews being sent to the East. 

The Vel d’Hiv roundup was the greatest example of this collaboration.  On July 16, 1942, some 13,152 men, women, and children were forced out of their homes (Poznanski 261).  While the Vel d’Hiv roundup succeeded in sweeping the streets of Paris and surrounding areas of a majority of their Jewish populations, French and Nazi forces failed to reach their goal of 24,000 Jews.  Single persons and those without children were sent directly to Drancy while families were held in a stadium in Paris, the Vélodrome d’Hiver, that was not equipped to house numerous people over a long stay (Poznanski 261). 

The police intended for this roundup to be done quietly so as not to attract attention from the French populace.  This intent was doomed from the start because word leaked out and underground networks frantically tried to warn Jews to flee or hide.  However, especially French Jews could not imagine what awaited them.  They dutifully followed the law by registering for the “census” and thereby made themselves available to deportation.  The concept of the Final Solution was unfathomable to them, especially at the hands of the French authorities who had so long protected them, in a country to which they were loyal. 

For 70,00 Jews from France, their stopover to their unknown destination in the East was at Drancy (Marrus and Paxton 252).  Drancy was to become a critical link to Auschwitz and the German Final Solution; for it was from Drancy that 62 of the 74 convoys left France between March 27, 1942, and August 17, 1944 (Zuccotti 206).  All but six of these trains arrived at Auschwitz, carrying 73,853 Jews, a majority of whom were gassed upon arrival (Zuccotti 206). 

Drancy opened as an internment camp for Jews expected from Paris in August 1941 (Marrus and Paxton 252).  From its opening until July 1943, Drancy’s administration was run entirely by the French.  There was much debate between who should be responsibility for the running of the camp: no one wanted the job.  As Renée Poznanski describes it, Drancy was “first a synonym of terror, and later became an almost obligatory stop on the way to a sinister unknown destination”(Poznanski 215).

9 posted on 03/29/2010 6:22:58 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Booo effing hooo.....


10 posted on 03/29/2010 6:24:50 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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No, I have not filled it out,” said Alejandrina Hernandez. “Because it is in English."

I'd bet that you could read the welfare, aid and food stamp paperwork real good, though, huh?

Not to mention the markings on those dollar bills the POS that hires you passes to you under the table.

Be afraid.

Be very afraid.

11 posted on 03/29/2010 6:29:16 AM PDT by OldSmaj (I am an avowed enemy of islam and Obama is a damned fool and traitor. Questions?)
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Confirmed: The U.S. Census Bureau Gave Up Names of Japanese-Americans in WW II
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The Second War Powers Act of 1942 temporarily repealed that protection to assist in the roundup of Japanese-Americans for imprisonment in internment camps in California and six other states during the war.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=confirmed-the-us-census-b


12 posted on 03/29/2010 6:30:48 AM PDT by Need4Truth (We can't afford the empire or the entitlements.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Illegals should not be counted, period.


13 posted on 03/29/2010 6:31:23 AM PDT by Oceander (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance -- Thos. Jefferson)
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To: RockinRight
I did put names and ages - reason being, the names and ages on early 20th century forms has made my genealogy research easier - I’d like to do my descendants that favor.

I did the same for the same reason. I got a kick out of seeing the draft registration cards for WWI.

That being said, that's all they're getting, it's none of their business.

14 posted on 03/29/2010 6:32:13 AM PDT by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

The census forms in Florida are in English only?!!!!

Every piece of mail I have received in Texas is in English and Spanish


15 posted on 03/29/2010 6:32:21 AM PDT by Just A Reader
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To: sheikdetailfeather

In all honesty, I am glad illegals or non-English speakers are skipping this. While this might not be technically legal, perhaps it should be made public that any collected census information WILL be used to go after illegals.


16 posted on 03/29/2010 6:32:30 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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Illegals should not BE counted.

Dang it: why should they bloat the numbers that will decide representation.
[Yeah I KNOW the reason why....]


17 posted on 03/29/2010 6:32:59 AM PDT by Adder (Proudly ignoring Zero since 1-20-09! WTFU!)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Who in god’s name is afraid of the idiots of Washington?


18 posted on 03/29/2010 6:36:44 AM PDT by Del Rapier
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The census form I filled out grudgingly was in both languages.


19 posted on 03/29/2010 6:37:58 AM PDT by Moonmad27 (That government is best which governs least. - Henry Thoreau)
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That just means more federal resources go to whatever races you aren’t.

Same effect had I marked it "white."

20 posted on 03/29/2010 6:41:10 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (The townhalls were going great until the oPods showed up.)
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