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McCain and Palin: Reunited and Feeling Good ("I support his position on immigration")
Fox News ^ | 2010-03-27

Posted on 03/30/2010 8:46:15 AM PDT by rabscuttle385

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To: Chunga

I guess a lot of us voted for the Republicans that “could win” over the last 10 years, and here we sit with a Marxist in the WH, national healthcare has arrived, and we have a national debt that is going to grind us to dust. I don’t have much of a problem with Palin, but I’m not going to let the NYT or the Republican establishment pick my candidate again. BTW the term “truther pig” is very persuasive and really wins people over to your point of view.


521 posted on 03/31/2010 6:37:34 AM PDT by throwback (o)
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To: throwback
Wow, another 500+ post Palin mudfest. I’d join in but am not sure whether I want to risk a 4th banning.

Okay, I will.

The problem here is Palin has made conlficting statements so whether you are pro-Palin or a Palin critic you have ammunition to use in the debate. The problem is there really shouldn’t be any debate, Palin should make her positions on immigration known and let the chips fall where the will.

But she clearly hasn’t and doesn’t do that for for probably one of two reasons. First, she doesn’t want to appear like she opposes McCain and that means she continues to carry the McCain water bucket. But that isn’t very commendable because it means she is shoving her own principles to the corner for political reasons and what happened to “principle over politics or party”? IF this is true than Palin has jumped the “rogue” shark, if she ever really was rogueish in the first place which I think is debatable.

Second, she is in line with McCains beliefs and is relutant to make them public because she fears the backlash from her supporters and other conservatives who put the immigration issue first. Again, not very rogueish or courageous but at least it can be ezxcused as politically expedient for her at the moment.

Until Palin comes out and clearly defines her positions and plans on the illegal immigration question many people will assume the worst. For that, her fans here who are desperately trying to defend her ambiguous comments have only her to blame.

So is Palin going rogue or is she going vogue?

522 posted on 03/31/2010 9:14:31 AM PDT by Bob J
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To: pissant
Like I said many times before. If we are arguing amongst ourselves about contenders Palin, DeMint, Hunter and Pence instead of dreading McCain, Rudy, and Mitt, I’ll be in hog heaven.

Amen to that.

I'd like to see the exact opposite of 2008 with maybe one RINO (to be beat up on by all the others) and everyone else conservative.
523 posted on 03/31/2010 9:25:52 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: Bob J
Until Palin comes out and clearly defines her positions and plans on the illegal immigration question many people will assume the worst. For that, her fans here who are desperately trying to defend her ambiguous comments have only her to blame.

So is Palin going rogue or is she going vogue?


Bob,

Good to see you back.

But it seems you've learned nothing with your forced sabbatical and you are as dense as ever.

Clearly define her positions?

She does this daily in her speeches and her FaceBook posts. The only issue left for clarification is the Illegal Immigration issue.

As usual, PDS sufferers such as yourself, always practice some form of deceit, this time you chose to use extreme hyperbole, exchanging the fact that she is unclear on one issue for she is unclear, by implication, on all issues.

Guess you are heading for another vacation soon.


524 posted on 03/31/2010 9:33:02 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie

Even copied the “Going Vogue” from another poster. LOL.


525 posted on 03/31/2010 9:53:25 AM PDT by sarah fan UK
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To: Bob J
Good points all. You sound reasonable to me, so I don't see how you were banned. Granted Palin is oh so close to crossing the line when it's beginning to appear that she is enthusiastic in her support of McCain. Still, I will give her the benefit of the doubt and wait to see how she directly answer the amnesty question in the future. I don't like it if she took the line that it's impractical to deport 12 million people. Defacto amnesty is a non-starter. I don't know what you do about 12 million people that the Federal government has allowed to illegally occupy the country, but they created the problem, they should fix it. I saw Palin answer a question regarding abortion in the governors race, and she didn't run from it. That's why I'll keep my mind open.
526 posted on 03/31/2010 10:46:07 AM PDT by throwback (o)
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To: rabscuttle385

The more she campaigns for this guy, the more I doubt her.


527 posted on 03/31/2010 10:47:27 AM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: Chunga; mkjessup; stephenjohnbanker; AuntB; DoughtyOne; pissant; indylindy; sickoflibs
This sub-literate post of yours [i.e., "There is absolutely nothing conservative about supporting a full-blown liberal in a GOP primary when there is a credible conservative challenger with his hat in the ring."] has been refuted 3 or 4 times now...

So you're saying that it's okay to support the liberal over the conservative in a GOP primary? Or is it just okay for Palin (yet not for the rest of us) (i.e., double standards)? Or are you expressing annoyance that someone's daring to call out that the emperor has no clothes?

528 posted on 03/31/2010 11:48:26 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: rabscuttle385

“So you’re saying that it’s okay to support the liberal over the conservative in a GOP primary? Or is it just okay for Palin (yet not for the rest of us) (i.e., double standards)?”

This should be good ;-)


529 posted on 03/31/2010 11:53:08 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops....and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: rabscuttle385; Bob J

WOW, Your fire (thread) is still burning. And Bob J is back from another time out #3, ready to jump right in with gasoline in hand.

Bob J, Are you the Freeper with 9 lives? Like a moth to a flame you cant resist.


530 posted on 03/31/2010 12:01:35 PM PDT by sickoflibs (( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is spending you demand stupid"))
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To: SoConPubbie

The premise of my post concerned Palin’s ambiguous comments regarding the immigration issue.

And you accuse me of being dense?


531 posted on 03/31/2010 2:11:29 PM PDT by Bob J
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To: sickoflibs
I’m the FR tar baby for Palin criticism. But I wouldn’t expect that I’ll be as active on Palin threads anymore. I’ve had my say and it appears that there are others willing to question the orthodoxy.

I will say this in parting, I’ve always been consistent on these threads. I like Palin and hope she continues to be a voice for conservatism ala Ann Couter. I do not think she is ready to be president at this time but that can always change in the future. I think it is dangerous to engage in messiah worship of ANY political figure as it leads to a tendancy to excuse words and actions that stray from the central conservative philosophy we all hold dear, and I think we have seen a good example of this very thing with the Alaska size fig leaf her most ardent supporters are covering her with regarding the McCain support.

The second most dangerous action we can engage in when selecting our leaders is to misrepresent, spin or outright fabricate records and history. Palin did some good in the Governor’s chair but there are a lot of warts and mud in her time there and in Wasila.

Closing one’s eyes to facts and truth does not lead to insight, only blindness.

532 posted on 03/31/2010 2:25:06 PM PDT by Bob J
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To: sickoflibs

BTW - My intent never was, nor is it now to throw gasoline on any discussion. At times my comments have been satirical and even sarcastic but those were in response to over the top rhetoric, hyperbole and misinformation from my debate opponents.

Only through reasoned analysis and discussion of the truth will we be able to arrive at informed opinions upon which we can act in a reasonable, constitutional and democratic fashion.


533 posted on 03/31/2010 2:36:32 PM PDT by Bob J
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Way past time to pasture this tired old bugger.Thanks for your service Juan, but please ride off into the sunset
534 posted on 03/31/2010 4:36:18 PM PDT by razbinn (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America,and to the republic for which it ...)
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To: rabscuttle385
So you're saying that it's okay to support the liberal over the conservative in a GOP primary? Or is it just okay for Palin (yet not for the rest of us) (i.e., double standards)? Or are you expressing annoyance that someone's daring to call out that the emperor has no clothes?

Listen, collegeboy (I will say this once):

Palin supported Hoffman against the Republican Scozzafava.

She spoke for McCain out of loyalty.

J.D. is anxiously awaiting her endorsement against the 'Rat in the general election.

Hayworth will support the Republican nominee in his district.

How's that vote for the Truther Chuck Baldwin working out for you, TRAULL?

535 posted on 03/31/2010 5:27:00 PM PDT by Chunga (Any IDIOT who says Obama would be better for the country than McCain is a disgrace - Mark Levin)
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To: Bob J

Welcome back :)


536 posted on 03/31/2010 5:41:50 PM PDT by sickoflibs (( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is spending you demand stupid"))
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To: Chunga; rabscuttle385
She spoke for McCain out of loyalty.

She spoke out for McCain because it's SOP for politicians of their party to support their incumbents. Period.

Please stop putting her on pedestal. You sound like a lib.

537 posted on 03/31/2010 6:55:55 PM PDT by EveningStar (Karl Marx is not one of our Founding Fathers.)
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To: Bob J

Welcome back. Your absence leaves a vaccuum that’s hard, nay impossible, to fill.


538 posted on 03/31/2010 11:38:21 PM PDT by MadAboutPalin (You betcha)
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To: EveningStar
She spoke out for McCain because it's SOP for politicians of their party to support their incumbents. Period.

An extremely stupid comment.

She ran for the vice-presidency on McCain's ticket. She's loyal to him personally because he chose her.

If you can't see it you're an idiot.

539 posted on 04/01/2010 12:37:27 AM PDT by Chunga (Any IDIOT who says Obama would be better for the country than McCain is a disgrace - Mark Levin)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

>> If Sarah Palin thinks John McCain has done anything to secure the border....maybe she needs to see if Obama is hiring.

Palin is selling McCain. And she’s doing a good job at the expense of her political career.


540 posted on 04/01/2010 8:38:35 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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