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Army Calls ‘Birther’ Doc’s Bluff
Military.com ^ | April 9, 2010 | Bryant Jordan

Posted on 04/09/2010 4:27:11 PM PDT by EveningStar

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To: Cicero

I would settle for the followin

1) Sat scores

2) 2 Achievement test scores

3) Application(including financial aid, student loans) to Occidental

4) Application (including finanancial aid, student loans) to Columbia

5) LSAT scores

6) Application to Harvard Law(including financial aid, student loans) to Harvard Law School.

Wanna catch a criminal fraud? Here ya go!


621 posted on 04/12/2010 10:01:33 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops....and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: Cicero

SAT scores , that is.


622 posted on 04/12/2010 10:03:21 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops....and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: jamese777
It is more than paranoia, IMO. There has been a massive escape from the asylum.
623 posted on 04/12/2010 10:03:37 AM PDT by verity (Obama Lies)
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To: jamese777
Well, if you deny that he is Marxist, and even dictatorial, it is you who need the rubber room, friend.

I do not have to think anything in re the GOP legislative caucus meeting with Obama, that happened. Like Chameberlain arriving back by GB with agreement in hand -- great evil in the present can be unseen by the most elite, by most of the most.

624 posted on 04/12/2010 10:04:11 AM PDT by bvw
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To: verity

Why is it easier for you to hold that all of us are somehow insane, than to see what is obvious to the sane? For we are indeed sane, concerned, learned and earnest.


625 posted on 04/12/2010 10:06:06 AM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw
“...hold that all of us...”

Not all...;-)

626 posted on 04/12/2010 10:08:19 AM PDT by verity (Obama Lies)
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To: verity

This is serious, and even will be our lifes. It is already for many — our wealth. You are like an happy attendee at the Berlin Games in 1936, cheering on something YOU do not fully understand in terms of the depth of evil it is.


627 posted on 04/12/2010 10:10:48 AM PDT by bvw
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To: BP2

“Well then jamese, you’re obviously wasting your time here too ... just like Loren.

Again, the Department of Defense, Justice Department & US Attorneys Office ARE MORE THAN CAPABLE of fighting off this so-called ridiculous and hopeless case ... right??!”
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I’m not wasting my time at all. I’m having great fun debating this fascinating political issue with folks like you!

I’m just not in the business of trying to predict the future as to what any government agency or court will do. I prefer to observe events as they unfold and document them when they have definitive outcomes, like 74 Obama eligibility lawsuits adjudicated thus far with no victory for any plaintiff at any level of the judicial system.

But that fact doesn’t mean that some plaintiff won’t prevail at a later date.

Perhaps, someday, a strong conservative US Attorney, state Attorney General, or a local District Attorney somewhere in the US will find the courage to simply convene a Grand Jury investigation into whether Obama’s birth documents are forged, fraudulent or tampered with. Then Obama’s original birth documents will be able to be subpoenaed and examined by experts with testimony taken under oath.

It still surprises me that all the attempts to get at the truth have been in civil law and that there has been no criminal investigation into this matter. Forgery IS a crime and you don’t have to CHARGE anyone with forgery to simply investigate the possibility of forgery.

I wish US Attorney for the northern district of Illinois Patrick Fitzgerald would take on this issue. His indictment of Rob Blagojevich caused a heavily Democratic state legislature in Illinois to impeach and remove Blagojevich within about six weeks time.

My second choice of prosecutor would be Mark L. Bennett, the Republican Attorney General of Hawaii who Hawaii state law gives INDEPENDENT subpoena power to (he doesn’t need a judge to subpoena a vital record without the consent of the person named on the record). However Bennett has shown no interest in the Obama eligibility issue and no interest in convening a Grand Jury investigation, unfortunately.


628 posted on 04/12/2010 10:15:57 AM PDT by jamese777
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To: verity
verity said: "I’ll tell you again: You do not know what you are talking about. The Supreme Court is not in the chain of Command."

It's not a question of "chain of command". It is a question of "appellate jurisdiction".

"The Supreme Court of the United States has discretion under 28 U.S.C. § 1259 to review cases under the UCMJ on direct appeal where the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Armed Forces has conducted a mandatory review (death penalty and certified cases), granted discretionary review of a petition, or otherwise granted relief. "

The Supreme Court has the authority to review courts-martial and to consider the lawfulness of a military order. As with most cases submitted to the Supreme Court, unlike most lower courts, the Supreme Court may refuse to hear a case without comment.

629 posted on 04/12/2010 10:16:46 AM PDT by William Tell
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To: bvw
"...cheering on something YOU do not fully understand in terms of the depth of evil it is..."

Unless you can find something to substantiate your contention, you are nuts.

630 posted on 04/12/2010 10:19:21 AM PDT by verity (Obama Lies)
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To: verity; jamese777; LorenC; curiosity; BuckeyeTexan; All

It is more than paranoia, IMO. There has been a massive escape from the asylum.

Yes, and except for a few HOPEless cases here who continue to stand by their man, many others who were snookered are FINALLY coming OFF their lithium haze ...

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631 posted on 04/12/2010 10:20:55 AM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: Cicero

I don’t pretend that there’s no problem with Obama’s birth certificate.

You do have some level of credible evidence from the Hawaii DoH. Whether or not you choose to believe it, is of course, your decision. Their credibililty must be weighed by statements they’ve made, statements they haven’t made, their level of cooperation, and many other factors.

We do know that there is a record in the Hawaii Vital Statiscs “Birth Index” database for one “male child born in 1961 by the name of Barack Hussein Obama, II.”

And Obama’s refusal to grant permission to the Hawaii DoH to release a copy of the long form which shows the hospital name and physician’s signature seems to indicate that Obama is hiding something from the public.

With that said, you have more credible evidence that he was born in Hawaii than you do that he was born in Kenya, IMO. I’ve seen nothing tangible that points to a Kenyan birth. I’ve read lots of conjecture and speculation.

I’d like to see Lucas Smith get is alleged Kenya BC in front of a U.S. court who can authentify it, but I doubt that’d happen.


632 posted on 04/12/2010 10:23:26 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Honesty, Character, & Loyalty still matter)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Further I don’t believe Global Warming is a man-made phenonmenon.

Read Michael Crichtons’s State of Fear. It provides all the evidence you’ll ever need to debunk global warming.


Great book.

Great author.

Sad that he died RIP


633 posted on 04/12/2010 10:25:13 AM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: William Tell
I have no idea how your response relates to your original bizarre question : “Would you be among the soldiers firing on the Militia attempting to enforce a Supreme Court order?”
634 posted on 04/12/2010 10:25:34 AM PDT by verity (Obama Lies)
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To: BP2

635 posted on 04/12/2010 10:26:17 AM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: BP2

How does this relate to Lafkin’s refusal to deploy?


636 posted on 04/12/2010 10:27:19 AM PDT by verity (Obama Lies)
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To: bvw

“Well, if you deny that he is Marxist, and even dictatorial, it is you who need the rubber room, friend.”


He was pretending,

just to get elected.

He is no longer pretending:

Read this and weep:

Obama was a MARXIST in college, and still is now today.

Here is an interview with a Dr. Drew, a fellow student at the time, and therefore it is from someone who knew him very very well: send to everyone you know if you wish to spread the (blocked) word:

http://www.newsrealblog.com/2010/02/13/marxist-obama-why-the-media-has-been-silent/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBGBszZ2Qw0

The full interview is devastating.

Too bad Fox News ignored Dr. Drew in 2008 when he contacted them.

We now know the details of Barry’s Occidental years.

He was an avowed and committed Marxist.

He looked forward to the revolution when the Marxists would overthrow our government.

His love for Marxism was unusually strong.

He looked forward to the revolution when the Marxists would overthrow our government.

His love for Marxism was unusually strong;

He was in passionate agreement with the most radical Marxist Leninist professors.


637 posted on 04/12/2010 10:28:35 AM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: BP2

I don’t offer execuses for him either. I call it like I see it. No law says he has to produce a damn thing. None of the lawsuits thus far have had legal standing.

It’s a damn shame that this happened. I wish you birthers would spend as much energy on getting legislation passed in your state demanding proof of natural born citizenship before the next election.


638 posted on 04/12/2010 10:30:54 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Honesty, Character, & Loyalty still matter)
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To: jamese777; All

I wish US Attorney for the northern district of Illinois Patrick Fitzgerald would take on this issue.

Yes.

And he wouldn't be the FIRST person to have come to their senses, realizing there's more to Obama than was seen at first glance.

Drudge - Cambridge Cop - Obama Lost her vote


639 posted on 04/12/2010 10:32:07 AM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: discomatic

Even if his race was listed as white, I don’t think anyone would care.


640 posted on 04/12/2010 10:35:55 AM PDT by zeebee (Ask a teenager now, while they still know everything.)
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