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Polish president's body 'found' in crash wreckage - source
RIA Novosti ^ | 10/04/2010

Posted on 04/10/2010 7:42:33 AM PDT by lizol

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To: null and void

It was a plane crash of the Rwandan President that triggered the Rwandan Genocide in 1994.


61 posted on 04/10/2010 9:17:06 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

No shelters that I recall. Water table too close to the surface for any meaningful underground constriction.

Just duck and cover. Your school desk will protect you from an atom bomb.

Never thought to question that...


62 posted on 04/10/2010 9:19:08 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 443 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: dfwgator

Crash? Wasn’t there a SAM involved?


63 posted on 04/10/2010 9:21:07 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 443 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: lizol

Heavy fog, small airport, no elctronic landing aids, pilot disregards instructions to fly to better airport, makes four landing attempts, everyone dies including the pilot .....................yes, it has EVERY mark of a well-planned assasination.

RUN FOR THE HILLS! With an enemy having such farreaching capabilities we don’t stand a chance.


64 posted on 04/10/2010 9:30:40 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction, one of the top five worries of the American Farmer each and every year..)
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To: ConservativeMan55
Agree. 'Get' that this plane hit trees in fog; my question is, beyond fog; was there a reason for them to be 'just above tree line'. Were they, perhaps. . .already disabled? Or some intruments?

Truth is; most likely, we will never know. . .

65 posted on 04/10/2010 9:40:48 AM PDT by cricket (We cannot allow t he 'man who would be king' to be one!)
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To: bgill
It is very scary these days because our enemies know how Obama has surrendered our place as the Greatest Nation on Earth. Whether it is by design(99.999% probability) or naivete (0.001% probability—and that is being generous)it is a losing situation .

Obama was never raised in an atmosphere of baseball, apple pies and Chevrolets. “Anti-American” was a term I became familiar with as a child. That word was used with Indonesia, Africa and the USSR.

66 posted on 04/10/2010 11:09:09 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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67 posted on 04/10/2010 12:27:38 PM PDT by lizol
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To: Gay State Conservative
"The Polish people are good,strong people and surely will endure."

I'm very much afraid that as a result, or as an adjunct, of this event, they will endure with a much closer 'relationship' with Russia, without a US missile shield, and with much reduced US involvement in general.

Whatever the actual cause of this crash might be it does create the possibility of a complete turn around from recent relationships.
(And, the former spook in me would (a) bet on it, and (b) be watching for similar changes in other former satellites)

68 posted on 04/10/2010 12:42:59 PM PDT by norton
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To: jimbo123

http://www.cracked.com/article_17298_6-random-coincidences-that-created-modern-world.html


69 posted on 04/10/2010 12:47:17 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: seowulf

I don’t know about that. However, I got curious about the “Katyn Forest” situation, and looked it up. Apparently, there was some sort of mass-grave there! There was some kind of monument put up there to commemorate those who died there. It was one of those memorial sites kind of like the Custer battle sites, or Gettysburg monument here.


70 posted on 04/10/2010 2:56:28 PM PDT by dsutah
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To: seowulf

Upon reading an article on Katyn Forest a few minutes ago, they (Soviets)did deny it until about 1990. They finally did acknowledge it happened. Even the Nazi forces discovered in 1943 what they believed to be mass graves there. Apparently, there were a large number of Polish military forces killed and buried there, along with many other civilian people. Many of them were taken as prisoners of war, and kept in POW camps.


71 posted on 04/10/2010 3:10:09 PM PDT by dsutah
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To: Gay State Conservative

>> Despite its new found oil wealth the USSR is still a Third World country?

Hate to break it to you but USSR ceased to exist in 1991.


72 posted on 04/10/2010 3:57:25 PM PDT by JadeEmperor
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To: JadeEmperor
Hate to break it to you but USSR ceased to exist in 1991.

Do you think the Georgians would agree with you? How about the Ukrainians?

73 posted on 04/10/2010 4:15:37 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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To: norton
I'm very much afraid that as a result, or as an adjunct, of this event, they will endure with a much closer 'relationship' with Russia, without a US missile shield, and with much reduced US involvement in general.

I suppose that that's possible.But I think it's just as possible that it would draw them closer to the EU...which wouldn't be very good either.

74 posted on 04/10/2010 4:18:39 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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To: Gay State Conservative

>> Do you think the Georgians would agree with you? How about
>> the Ukrainians?

I was actually born in the Ukraine so I happen to know a few things about what Ukrainians think :)

But to call today’s Russia USSR shows you are unfamiliar with what it was like at all. The command economy is dead. The Soviet welfare state is dead. The Soviet marxist-leninist dogma is not being preached or indoctrinated. There is open international travel, availability of the Internet (which would have been unthinkable during Soviet times) and private ownership and accumulation of wealth are allowed.

Many things have changed.

But, having said that, Russia can be imperialistic with or without the Communist ideology. Russia originally annexed Georgia when it was ruled by the Czars.


75 posted on 04/10/2010 4:38:42 PM PDT by JadeEmperor
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To: null and void; jimbo123
Say wasn't good old Gavrilo a muslim?

No, he was a Serb.

76 posted on 04/10/2010 4:52:07 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: lizol

As much as these things are fairly well sanitized in our media, I was somewhat taken aback to see the Russians allowed photos of the caskets piled in the back of a truck.

Do you know when the bodies will return home?

Thank you for keeping us up to date. God bless you and God bless Poland.


77 posted on 04/10/2010 5:06:24 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: norton
"...the former spook in me ..."

Mmmm...I am bookmarking your homepage because I think you may have some interesting perspective during times such as this.
:-)

78 posted on 04/10/2010 5:09:49 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: wideminded
Right you are. It is posible to be both.
The first conspirator on the route to see the royal car was Muhamed Mehmedbasic. Standing by the Austro-Hungarian Bank, Mehmedbasic lost his nerve and allowed the car pass without taking action. Mehmedbasic later said that a policeman was standing behind him and feared he would be arrested before he had a chance to throw his bomb.

79 posted on 04/10/2010 8:17:52 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 443 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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