Should creationism be taught in British classrooms?

An object with mass that is higher the that of air will immerse in water - a body that contains mainly water will do so nearly completely or sink.

Now it’s your turn to tell me your hint to believe Jesus really walked on the water ;-)

Now this is not a proof but it is a little theory with a quite dense logical background.

I’ll go with this until you show me something reproducable and consistent that convinces me otherwise - and no just because many people do it or because it’r written is not a logical and reproducable thing.

But as Doctor House said - don’t reason with religious people - they wouldn’t be religious if you could ;-)

Psalm 22...

well THAT must be interpreted... as what ?

Either that Psalm 22 is an impressive act of prophecy - details from the passion of chirst where actually written on paper long before Christ was on Earth.

Or the authors of christ’s passion knew the content of Psalm 22 and bound it into known context.

Since I do not know how it was determined that psalm 22 was authored over 800 years BC I will not say it isn’t so - I know that many sources of text in the bible are much older then 2000 years. Was it never ‘worked over’.

What do you think would happen to all the informations written down in ancient times ? What motivations existed then to write things down.

If I assumed that there was in fact prophecy and enlightenment as a motivation to some of these ancient writers - isn’t it likely that there have been people arround who wrote and preached also political and ethical propaganda ?

What might have happened to writings like the later ?

Hmmm I am asking to much - you don’t have to open your mind to ateism. It’s maybe not even what makes you or most people happy.

I would ask not to demand to mix science with religion or to even compare them in any way is a missunderstanding of concepts. Just keep creationism where it belongs - into talkshows and the media - it was ment as a provocation. If it appears in school then in lessons where you teach children what ‘the media’ is.

Ah, you presuppositions are showing again. You assume that Jesus was just a man. And you assume that there is no room for the supernatural, that the laws are nature cannot be violated.

No mere man can walk on water as described, except by some supernatural event. But if He is God, the Creator of all, as He said many times, it would not be illogical to allow Him to perform acts like this to show His dominion over creation.

I'll give you a crude analogy. In many pieces of software, there are "easter eggs" or "cheats" that allow the player to do things not normally possible. These are placed in by the creators of the software, and, unless revealed to rest, they look impossible to perform by the average user. But they show the dominion of the programmer over the game.

But as Doctor House said - don’t reason with religious people - they wouldn’t be religious if you could ;-)

Spoken like a true closed-minded bigot (House, not you; I have no idea if you are a bigot). You have presupposed that religious people are not reasonable. That makes it easier for you to dismiss us.

As I pointed out earlier, ANY origin theory is based in a philosophical presupposition, and as such, has a certain amount of faith to it. Also, any theory is worthless if it cannot be predictive, i.e. a controlled experiment where the result can accurately be predicted before. I have yet to see a controlled experiment that conclusively proves ToE OR ID. As such, both are not theories, but conjectures.

True science does not ignore nor throw away some/most of the known data just because it does not fit their assumptions. See my links page and explain why over 100 natural clocks are ignored in favor of those used by evolutionary science and their many [oft not-stated] assumptions for starting points and uniformitarianism.

You stated: “I would ask not to demand to mix science with religion or to even compare them in any way is a missunderstanding of concepts.” You must study much history grasshopper, before you may begin to see who is ‘pulling the wool over your eyes.’ Newton did his scientific reseach in an attempt to prove God, the Bible and the evidence that God states is plain for all to see in His creation.

You ever heard of the Dead Sea Scrolls? Modern science has shown that the Biblical Old Testament is accurately recorded as it was passed down throughout history.

More suggested reading to shed light on your Biblical understanding:

3 books/recordings by Lee Strobel:
The Case for Christ,
The Case for Faith, &
The Case for Creation.

‘More than a Carpenter’ by Josh McDowell [iirc]
‘The Signature of God’ by Grant Jeffries
‘Starlight and Time’ by Russell Humphreys

Dr Ivan Panin Russian Mathematician later emigrated to USA and spent his life’s work researching the mathematical codes underlying the structure in the Bible which consequently led to modern day ELS - Equidistant Letter Spacings. ELS is only possible w/ the advent of the computer age.

Online book that I strongly reccomend for hardback purchase
containing what is and what is not conclusive in modern evolutionary science by a former evolutionary scientist
‘In the Beginning’ by Dr. Walt Brown Ph.D.
[also on my FR links page.]

The choice is yours:
Continue to throw stones blindly, or
Do some of your own web research and analysis.

Modern day science has become big-time Bible critics by using only the data that supports their hopes and dreams. I think eventually you’ll see that all folks live in glass houses some are just more stone-proof than others.

But no one has shown any true science that can conclusively refute the inspired Word of God. Many make such claims and many reach consensus w/i their own little warped peer-reviews but none [no one] can produce anything on par w/ the accuracy of the Bible.

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