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McCain-Lieberman Bill Would Deny Civilian Trials for "Enemy Belligerents"
newamerican ^ | 3 8 2010 | Steven Yates

Posted on 04/21/2010 6:50:07 PM PDT by tutstar

On March 4 Senators John McCain (R-Ariz) and Joseph Lieberman (I-Conn.) introduced a bill entitled “The Enemy Belligerent Interrogation, Detention and Prosecution Act of 2010.” If you thought some of the legislation introduced and passed by Congress under Bush II was scary, then in the immortal words of Bachman and Turner you ain’t seen nothin’ yet.

The stated purpose of the bill is to ban civilian trials for those designated by the federal government as “enemy belligerents.” The bill would bar such individuals from receiving the legal rights usually afforded those accused of crimes in the United States. “Enemy belligerents” would be taken into military custody for the purposes of interrogation and determination of their status. Some, after interrogation and determination of status, may become "high-level detainees."

Who could be designated “enemy belligerents” and thereby denied the right to a civilian trial? Would the designation be limited to combatants captured on a battlefield, or could it be extended to others — including, potentially, even law-abiding U.S. citizens who dissent from an official point of view or policy?

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S. 3081 Enemy Belligerent Interrogation – A Sick Merry-Go-Round

Dissenters to Be Detained as "Enemy Belligerents"?

1 posted on 04/21/2010 6:50:08 PM PDT by tutstar
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To: LucyT; BP2; rxsid; 2ndDivisionVet

A person may become a “high-value detainee” if he or she “meets the criteria for treatment as such established in the regulations required by subsection (d).” These regulations are:

• The “potential threat” the person poses for an attack on civilians or civilian facilities. Questions: What is meant by a potential threat? How much potential is required? Does potential involve actions, or just speech within an assembly of dissenting voices which someone in government has interpreted as a threat?

• The “potential threat” the person poses to U.S. military personnel or facilities. The same questions apply.

• The “potential intelligence” value of the individual. See below.

• “Membership in al Qaeda or in a terrorist group affiliated with al Qaeda.”

• “Such other matters as the President considers appropriate.”

This last, of course, could mean anything any President wants it to mean, whether it is Obama or someone else sitting in the Oval Office in the future. This makes the meaning high-value detainee completely open-ended!


2 posted on 04/21/2010 6:51:34 PM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or ...off..)
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To: Nightshift

gnip


3 posted on 04/21/2010 6:51:54 PM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or ...off..)
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To: tutstar

The same type of “Belligerents” that flew planes into the WTC and Pentagon? lol

God, these fools are..... Well, they are fools.

(I need a drink)


4 posted on 04/21/2010 6:59:46 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: tutstar

WTF x 1,000,000


5 posted on 04/21/2010 7:02:15 PM PDT by rae4palin (RESIST--REPEAL--IMPEACH)
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To: tutstar

Thanks for posting this! Why this heinous, un-American, un-constitutal bill isn’t getting more attention from the conservative press is beyond me. JD Hayworth’s campaign office says he’s against it, but he has yet to come out against it on his website. Very strange! We need to get the word out on this evil McCain senate bill, and fast!


6 posted on 04/21/2010 7:02:34 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: tutstar

NPs your article does not hammer away at the.most important point. Namely, that this bill would allow ObamaNation to imprison US citizens indefinitely without charges or trial.


7 posted on 04/21/2010 7:06:55 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: KoRn

yes... not!


8 posted on 04/21/2010 7:08:43 PM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or ...off..)
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To: tutstar

It should have been built right into the title. Oh well. At least word is starting to get out there.


9 posted on 04/21/2010 7:09:40 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: rae4palin

to infinity & beyond!!

even the conservative talking heads haven’t mentioned this yet....have to say this bill does have me concerned!!


10 posted on 04/21/2010 7:09:42 PM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or ...off..)
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To: GodGunsGuts
I know, the silence is deafening. I emailed it to Rush, maybe we need to be on the phones to some of the talk guys.

I wonder if the EB card is being played already.

Oath Keepers Profiled

11 posted on 04/21/2010 7:11:52 PM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or ...off..)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Good point. I was trying to make the title “as is” but just requested for the title to have an addendum. . . we’ll see.

Even the lib sites are not keen on this but I think it is pretty easy to figure out who they want to get with this bill.


12 posted on 04/21/2010 7:15:36 PM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or ...off..)
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"Such other matters as the President considers appropriate.”

This last, of course, could mean anything any President wants it to mean, whether it is Obama or someone else sitting in the Oval Office in the future. This makes the meaning high-value detainee completely open-ended.

13 posted on 04/21/2010 7:17:04 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: tutstar

JiI’m trying to get Freepers to bug Drudge about this story. More crickets. What the heck is going on?!


14 posted on 04/21/2010 7:18:36 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
Anybody who supports or votes for this piece of sh*^ legislation is a dire threat to America. This will become a part of their permanent record... as will their dismissal from Government service come November.

;-/

15 posted on 04/21/2010 7:19:59 PM PDT by Gargantua (DON'T TREAD ON US.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

yes it is frustration to the max!!!!


16 posted on 04/21/2010 7:20:15 PM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or ...off..)
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To: tutstar

I’m voting for JD just because I can - McLame is way, way too late!


17 posted on 04/21/2010 7:21:01 PM PDT by J Edgar
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To: tutstar

Sorry about spelling. Never could get this typing from my phone thing down :o(


18 posted on 04/21/2010 7:22:12 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Gargantua

What you said, and how!


19 posted on 04/21/2010 7:23:40 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: J Edgar

YES! McCain must be crazy to sponsor something like this so close to the election. But I think all the leadership have long depended upon the ignorance of the people. Obama plays it to the max. He knows that many will believe him and never attempt to verify.


20 posted on 04/21/2010 7:36:09 PM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or ...off..)
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