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Arena Digest: Will the Familiar Post-Sept. 11 Partisanship Soon Break Out?
Politico ^ | 5/3/2010 | Politico

Posted on 05/04/2010 4:42:24 AM PDT by tobyhill

Christine Pelosi, attorney, author and Democratic activist

This is what a terrorist can look like: a balding white man in his 40s. Thanks to an alert street vendor and an NYPD officer who ushered in local and federal law enforcement, the Times Square would-be bomber was a bust. So far. They saw the parked car, engine running, hazards blinking, driver departing — in other words, they profiled behavior, not people. Take note, Arizona.

Timothy Stoltzfus Jost, professor, Washington and Lee University

I think the politics of this incident will turn heavily on who is found to be responsible. If, as seems unlikely, the bomb is linked to South Asian or Middle Eastern terrorists, questions will again arise as to whether the Department of Homeland Security is doing all it can do to keep us safe. If, as I believe is much more likely, the bomb was placed by a right-wing lunatic, it seems to me that questions need to be raised as to whether the right-wing media bear some responsibility for stoking the delusions of such people through their relentless and often unfounded attacks on the Obama administration and the federal government.

We need to consider whether it isn’t time to return to responsible, ethical journalism.

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1 posted on 05/04/2010 4:42:24 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

He is a graduate of Obama’s kiss-arse to Muslims outreach program of 2009. Made citizen, moved to front of the line, 2009. See Mulsims are nice guys too.

Enough said, we now have plenty of bomb carrying sleepers. Thanks Obama. How is your oil spill going?


2 posted on 05/04/2010 4:45:29 AM PDT by Tarpon ( ...Rude crude socialist Obama depends on ignorance to force his will on people)
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To: tobyhill
"Timothy Stoltzfus Jost, Professor, Washington and Lee University"

Well. Don't we feel stupid now, teach?

3 posted on 05/04/2010 4:48:07 AM PDT by SnuffaBolshevik
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To: SnuffaBolshevik

The DU Leftoids are in full mourning. They’ve been slavering since Saturday night over the prospect of blaming Glenn Beck and Rush for egging on a right-wing lone wolf.

BTW: Since when is taking off your sweatshirt on a warm May evening a “suspicious” activity? Oh yeah... since the MSM was hoping against all hope that the balding, 40ish white male was the perpetrator.


4 posted on 05/04/2010 4:57:57 AM PDT by joeystoy
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To: tobyhill
Christine Pelosi, attorney, author and Democratic activist:

This is what a terrorist can look like: a balding white man in his 40s.

Yeah, in her screwed up liberal dreams.

Thanks to an alert street vendor and an NYPD officer who ushered in local and federal law enforcement, the Times Square would-be bomber was a bust.

Not trying to take away anything from the cops and the street vendors, but if this terrorist was a pro they would all be sitting in pieces on a cold steel table.

5 posted on 05/04/2010 4:57:59 AM PDT by NotSoModerate
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To: NotSoModerate
The real Terrorist is/are people like Christine Pelosi!
6 posted on 05/04/2010 5:01:16 AM PDT by 2001convSVT ("Hand out pocket Constitutions to everyone you can")
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To: tobyhill
We need to consider whether it isn’t time to return to responsible, ethical journalism.

Says the person falsely accusing some random guy on the street of being a terrorist, simply because she heard it on the "responsible, ethical news shows".

7 posted on 05/04/2010 5:05:45 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: tobyhill
"... as I believe is much more likely, the bomb was placed by a right-wing lunatic.."

Well, I guess Prof. Jost has substituted wishful thinking for critical analysis.

8 posted on 05/04/2010 5:06:49 AM PDT by Pietro
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To: joeystoy
These people are so crazed in their efforts to demonize the right that they can't think, let alone think straight.Even had it been the white guy, you'd think they know enough about NYC to know that there are Balkan Muslims living in Queens five stops on the 7 Train from Times Square.

Secondly, any militia type terrorism has been directed against Federal govt targets, not a bunch of tourists seeing a show at the Shubert or waiting on line to eat at Juniors or Ollies Noodle House.Go ask the Israelis who places bombs in locations such as these.

9 posted on 05/04/2010 5:08:57 AM PDT by xkaydet65 (Never compromise with evil! Even in the face of Armageddon!! Rorshach)
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To: NotSoModerate; All
Not trying to take away anything from the cops and the street vendors, but if this terrorist was a pro they would all be sitting in pieces on a cold steel table.

Absolutely. The Illegal's regime dropped all the balls on this one. There was obviously no actionable intel to tip us off about this. That, in turn, had to result from the Illegal's obvious desire to tear down the CIA and our other intel assets and prosecute everyone who engaged in aggressive, innovative forms of intelligence gathering.

10 posted on 05/04/2010 5:09:42 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: tobyhill
"If, as I believe is much more likely, the bomb was placed by a right-wing lunatic,"

Oooh, bad timing on this article there sister. No knights of Columbus connection in this one. Could it be that you are profiling using your own personal bias?
11 posted on 05/04/2010 5:09:56 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: tobyhill
They saw the parked car, engine running, hazards blinking, driver departing — in other words, they profiled behavior, not people. Take note, Arizona.

Of course, they didn't see the "driver departing", or they would have known it wasn't a balding white guy.

And the Arizona law would work precisely like this. If a person is behaving like an illegal, they would be stopped and questioned. People who were clearly not illegals wouldn't be stopped and questioned.

So the white girl in the power suit and briefcase stepping out of the BMW and ordering her Starbucks coffee in perfect english on her way to her office probably would not be stopped and questioned.

While the guy who looks like he slept with 15 other people in a boarding house, standing on the street corner with a dozen other people of similar dress and color, being picked up by pickup trucks, loaded in the back, and shipped off to day labor, would be good targets for a quick question about identification.

And yes, while there are a LOT of people of color who are citizens, and therefore you definitely need more than just "hey it's an hispanic male" to have reasonable suspicion, it is also the case that almost NO american-speaking caucasians are actually illegal immigrants. So taking a gander at what they LOOK LIKE is part of the profiling.

12 posted on 05/04/2010 5:11:22 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
"Could it be that you are profiling using your own personal bias?"

Most definitely. That is absolutely what they are doing.
Semper Fi

13 posted on 05/04/2010 5:12:46 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes (You don't have to be ignorant to be a Democrat...but if you are...so what?)
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To: NotSoModerate

You’re absolutely right. That’s four — count ‘em, four — successful terrorist attacks on American soil since Obama took office.

We were lucky in two of those instances that the bombers didn’t know what they were doing, but in both cases their devices ignited in some fashion. The Christmas Day and Times Square incidents could have been horrendous.

Yet, the Left continues to blame the Right...


14 posted on 05/04/2010 5:15:53 AM PDT by AnglePark
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To: tobyhill

Hey, Timothy Stoltzfus Jost, how does my ass taste?


15 posted on 05/04/2010 5:18:39 AM PDT by thecabal (Destroy Progressivism)
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To: tobyhill

now don’t these two fools expose themselves as...bigoted fools?

Is Christine genetically linked to the liberal loon pelosi clan in san francisco and dc?


16 posted on 05/04/2010 5:19:27 AM PDT by silverleaf (Karl Marx was not one of the founding fathers ....)
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To: tobyhill
We need to consider whether it isn’t time to return to responsible, ethical journalism.

No lefty should have the balls to write this sentence.

17 posted on 05/04/2010 5:20:44 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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To: tobyhill

U.S. citizen from Pakistan arrested in Times Square bomb case
By Anne E. Kornblut, Jerry Markon and Spencer S. Hsu
Tuesday, May 4, 2010; 6:45 AM

Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. announced early Tuesday that an arrest had been made in the failed Times Square car bombing, saying that Faisal Shahzad, a 30-year-old American, was taken into custody at John F. Kennedy International Airport as he tried to fly to Dubai on Monday night.

Authorities said Shahzad, who is of Pakistani origin and lived in Connecticut, had paid cash for a Nissan Pathfinder that was found packed with explosives Saturday night on a tourist-crowded block in midtown Manhattan. The vehicle was set ablaze but failed to detonate.

Officials located Shahzad after a sweeping two-day investigation that yielded what senior Obama administration officials described as a flood of international and domestic clues suggesting a plot involving more than one person.

“It was clear that the intent behind this terrorist act was to kill Americans,” Holder said at a rare middle-of-the-night news conference at the Justice Department, nearly three hours after the suspect was pulled from an international flight that had already left the departure gate.

Shahzad has family links to the southern port city of Karachi, according to Dawn television, an English-language station in Pakistan. Shahzad flew to Karachi in July 2009 on Emirates, the Dubai-based international airline of the United Arab Emirates, and returned to the U.S. via the same airline on August 5, the station said, citing unnamed sources.

Pakistani officials said U.S. authorities have asked for their help investigating Shahzad.

Administration officials said President Obama had been repeatedly briefed on the incident — which authorities said could have led to significant casualties if the explosives had detonated properly — since it began unfolding Saturday night. It bore some resemblance to the attempted bombing of an airliner in Detroit last Christmas Day, with citizen watchdogs earning much of the credit for averting the crisis and the White House scrambling to discover clues about a young male suspect with apparent ties that stretched beyond the United States.

Still, within 48 hours, agents from Customs and Border Protection arrested Shahzad and took him into custody. It was not immediately clear what the charges were or where he was being held — or whether other arrests were imminent. The U.S. attorney’s office in New York said Shahzad will appear in Manhattan federal court Tuesday to be formally charged.

Authorities became aware of Shahzad’s identity Monday afternoon, and he was arrested at about 11:45 p.m. Monday. Shahzad’s flight to Dubai had left the gate and was headed toward the runway when authorities discovered that he was on board and wanted. He was removed from the plane and taken into custody, an official said.

Officials were reluctant to discuss Shahzad’s potential ties to foreign extremists, except to say that they believed he was fleeing the country at the time of his arrest.

Shahzad recently returned from a five-month trip to Pakistan, a government official said.

The centerpiece of the investigation was evidence gathered about the sale of the car. “That was the key factor to our getting the guy so quick,” a U.S. law enforcement official said. Shahzad allegedly bought the car for $1,300 about a week ago, responding to an Internet listing, the official said.

A listing on www.nothingbutcars.net that appears to match the car sold from Bridgeport, Conn., offers a “Grey 1993 Nissan Pathfinder (automatic) (sold as is) with 141,000 miles CLEAN inside and out!!”

“It does have some rust as you can see in the picture,” the owner said in the listing.

An FBI-led Joint Terrorism Task Force had taken over the investigation Monday amid growing indications of a possible international connection, U.S. officials and law enforcement sources said.

Investigators and agents also were scouring international phone records showing calls “between some of the people who might be associated with this and folks overseas,” according to a U.S. official who has discussed the case with intelligence officers. Investigators uncovered evidence — a piece of paper, fingerprints or possibly both — that also indicates international ties, according to a federal official briefed on the investigation. Before Shahzad’s arrest, the official said the material points to “an individual who causes concern to [investigators], who has overseas connections, and they are looking for him.”

An overseas angle does not necessarily mean that the incident was planned or financed by al-Qaeda or another organized group, investigators said. “Think smaller,” said one senior law enforcement official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the investigation is ongoing.

Even as investigators emphasized that the probe was in its early stages and little was definitively known, they were pursuing what Obama administration officials characterized as a flood of new leads, both foreign and domestic. The Pathfinder’s registered owner, for example, told investigators that he sold it several weeks ago to a stranger, in a cash transaction through Craigslist.

On Monday, a day of fast-moving developments from Manhattan to Washington, Holder said in the morning that it was too early to designate the failed bombing as an attempted terrorist incident. By afternoon, White House spokesman Robert Gibbs was calling it just that.

“I would say that was intended to terrorize, and I would say that whomever did that would be categorized as a terrorist,” Gibbs said, sharpening the administration’s tone. Holder’s statement early Tuesday called the incident a “terrorist act.”

Differences also emerged over the significance of a surveillance video that caught a man in his 40s changing his shirt in an alley and looking over his shoulder near where the Pathfinder was parked. New York City police officials had characterized the man as acting suspiciously, but multiple federal law enforcement officials said he may not be the focus of the investigation.

“It looks like he was just taking off his shirt because he was hot,” said one law enforcement official. Investigators were seeking to find another person captured on video running north on Broadway away from the area where the smoking sport-utility vehicle caused an evacuation of Times Square on a crowded weekend night.

Police said the bomb would have created a fireball that likely would have killed or wounded many people, making it the most serious bombing attempt in the United States since the Christmas Day attack aboard a commercial flight bound for Detroit.

The growing evidence of terrorist connections in the Times Square case prompted the New York-based terrorism task force to take the lead in the investigation, which had been overseen by the New York Police Department, a senior U.S. law enforcement official said. That indicates that the failed bombing is being investigated as a terrorist incident with international connections, the official said.

FBI Special Agent Richard Kolko of the New York field office said in a statement Monday night that the “FBI JTTF [Joint Terrorism Task Force] and NYPD are working this case jointly and have been since the beginning.” The New York police force, known for its expertise in terrorism matters, is represented on the task force and will remain heavily involved in the probe, officials said.

In the rear of the SUV, police found a makeshift bomb made up of three tanks of propane similar to those used in backyard barbecues; two jugs of gasoline; dozens of M-88 firecrackers, which are legal for purchase in some states; and a metal gun case holding 100 pounds of fertilizer that police said was incapable of exploding.

Some officials cautioned that the international focus did not mean that other possibilities, such as domestic terrorism or an individual acting alone, were being ruled out. Neither did it mean, they said, that international ties automatically constituted a well-formed plot.

One federal law enforcement official, for example, said international communications don’t necessarily “get you to an international plot, a multi-organizational plot.”

“We’re just not there,” the official said.

The nature of the possible international connection also remained murky.

The Pakistani Taliban had asserted responsibility for the attempted bombing in a video posted on YouTube, but New York police and federal investigators have said no evidence had surfaced linking the group to the bomb.

On Sunday night, a second video was posted by apparent representatives of the Taliban, showing the group’s commander, Hakimullah Mehsud, promising to launch attacks in the United States.

Mehsud, who U.S. and Pakistani authorities initially believed was killed in a January drone strike, was recorded saying, “The time is very near when our fedayeen will attack the American states in their major cities . . . in some days or a month’s time.”

The video is marked with the logo of the Pakistani Taliban’s official media wing, Umar Studios, and appears to be credible, according to Evan F. Kohlmann, a terrorism consultant at Flashpoint Partners.

Staff writers Ellen Nakashima and Greg Miller and staff researcher Julie Tate in Washington and correspondent Karin Brulliard in Islamabad contributed to this report.


18 posted on 05/04/2010 5:24:04 AM PDT by narses (Only half the patients who go into an abortion clinic come out alive.)
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To: tobyhill
in other words, they profiled behavior, not people.

You mean they didn't profile white people in Arizona like the author just did?

19 posted on 05/04/2010 5:24:12 AM PDT by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: libstripper

No intel? A muslim goes to Pakistan for almost a year right after becoming a citizen? It’s the Muslims stoopid! They gotta be stupid not to profile Muslims.


20 posted on 05/04/2010 5:26:05 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (S)
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