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Court: Hutaree to stay jailed for now
Gun Rights Examiner ^ | 12 May, 2010 | David Codrea

Posted on 05/13/2010 4:46:43 AM PDT by marktwain

Members of the Hutaree militia accused of conspiracy to commit sedition must remain behind bars pending pretrial release arguments. From The Associated Press:

The United States Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit, in Cincinnati, said Monday that it was continuing a temporary stay of a Detroit federal judge’s decision to free members of the militia pending trial.

For how long?

Per the Detroit Free Press:

Federal prosecutors, who appealed the decision of U.S. District Judge Victoria Roberts, have until May 17 to file arguments and defense lawyers have until May 24. Lawyers on both sides also can request to orally address the court if they cite sufficient reason.

After that, who knows?

As we've seen in recent accounts, a federal judge ordered group members free on bond following an astonishing performance by the FBI agent leading the investigation who could not recall details.

We then saw the release blocked, with prosecutors claiming the group posed a danger.

This was followed with an "unprecedented" affidavit filed by the Chief Pretrial Services Officer, along with claims that the government had "misrepresented" the conditions of release.

What the court decides to do after arguments from both sides are heard will certainly be interesting, and possibly indicative of how compelling the government's case really is.

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: banglist; bond; codrea; court; examiner; hutaree; militia
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What is that famous saying from the Democrats? Its not the evidence that is important, it is the seriousness of the charge! Kind of turns that whole "Constitutional Rights" thingy on its head, doesn't it?
1 posted on 05/13/2010 4:46:43 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

If they had actually murdered anyone and were Islamic
the DOJ and Holder would be all over this — freeing them,
lawyering them up, protecting them, protecting their
leaders, so as to protect the real enemy of America.


2 posted on 05/13/2010 4:49:46 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Article IV - Section 4 - The United States Â… shall protect each of them against Invasion)
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To: marktwain

For those who haven’t seen it. Here is the 36 page opinion of the judge who ordered them released last week. (pdf)

http://www.mied.uscourts.gov/Opinions/robertspdf/Order%20on%20Detention%20in%20Militia%20Case.pdf


3 posted on 05/13/2010 4:56:06 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: grellis

MI ping


4 posted on 05/13/2010 4:56:14 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am inyenzi on the Religion Forum)
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To: marktwain

Why can’t their wives/SOs bring their to-do lists to court and get these ne’er-do-wells sprung to get some work done at home?


5 posted on 05/13/2010 4:56:34 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: marktwain

My impression is that the Hutaree militia are a bunch of “goobers”.

And the agent-in-charge with the FBI has really fouled this up. The charges brought simply do not pass the smell test. Evidently the judge thought so too.

Now the government is doing damage control.

I am expecting it to come out that the “informant” is a Muslim who was working with the FBI to infiltrate the group.

Note his quote in FBI release:

http://detroit.fbi.gov/dojpressrel/pressrel10/de032910.htm

“.. Andrew Arena, FBI Special Agent in Charge, said, “This is an example of radical and extremist fringe groups which can be found throughout our society. The FBI takes such extremist groups seriously, especially those who would target innocent citizens and the law enforcement officers who protect the citizens of the United States...”

Here is a lengthy article about Agent Arena’s history:

March 9, 2007, - 2:56 pm

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/11364/fbi-grown-terrorists-fed-agents-chose-which-muslims-to-sell-stolen-goods/

Special SuperModel in Charge: Federal Bureau of Islamists Gets a New Detroit Chief

By Debbie Schlussel

“By the way, Andrew “Andy” Arena has a history of brown stuff at the end of his nose when it comes to Islamists. Wearing brown nose make-up for Muslims was his job at the FBI in New York. “


6 posted on 05/13/2010 5:00:04 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: Texas Fossil

Its amazing to me that the realease was orginally stayed because of the shooting of a Detroit cop that had absolutely nothing to do with the case whatsoever.


7 posted on 05/13/2010 5:18:24 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: cripplecreek

The Left is frantic to find a weapon to disarm the Tea Party and anyone who opposes their radical agenda.

I was amazed to read about the FBI agent-in-charge. The article I referenced goes back to 2006. Locals were criticizing him for his biases back then. I hope I am wrong, but it looks to me that this is a totally bogus set of charges, with political motivation.

That said, I think the Hutaree militia are a bunch of “goobers”. But harmless goobers. Unlike the stealth Muslim terrorists.


8 posted on 05/13/2010 5:46:52 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: Texas Fossil

All I know is that FReepers better take a long hard look at what the Hutaree are accused of vs the evidence against them.

They’re accused of being domestic terrorists but the evidence shows that they did little more than what FReepers do on a daily basis.

The feds say they were engaging in “live fire training” but judge Roberts pointed out that they were shooting at cardboard targets on a private range.

The feds accuse them of a “seditious act” for burning a flag but the flag was a UN flag. Roberts also points out that this was NOT a seditious act.

They were accused of using firearms in the commission of a felony but Roberts points out that no felony was committed and they all surrended peacefully despite having easy access to multiple weapons.

There are accused of making bombs but Roberts points out that no evidence of bomb making was found.

This really looks like an attept on the part of the feds to see what they can get away with.


9 posted on 05/13/2010 6:23:14 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Springman; sergeantdave; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; ...

If you would like to be added or dropped from the Michigan ping list, please freepmail me.


10 posted on 05/13/2010 6:26:59 AM PDT by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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To: cripplecreek

Yes, and it was done before and worked. Under Slick Willie.


11 posted on 05/13/2010 6:28:54 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: Texas Fossil

The Left is frantic to find a weapon to disarm the Tea Party and anyone who opposes their radical agenda-—————wouldn’t the TEA party have to be armed to be disarmed? You’re sentence is based on what exactly?


12 posted on 05/13/2010 6:36:40 AM PDT by Freddd (CNN is down to Three Hundred Thousand viewers. But they worked for it.)
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To: Travis McGee; Jack Black

Ping.


13 posted on 05/13/2010 6:40:43 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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To: cripplecreek; marktwain

I think I posted the first article about their being granted release via bail before trial. As I said at the time, the gov’t got their headline.

It will be interesting to see how the prosecutor’s appeal here plays out.


14 posted on 05/13/2010 6:42:51 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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To: FreedomPoster

It needs a lot more media attention which makes it kind of interesting that the media seems to have forgotten about them.


15 posted on 05/13/2010 6:45:58 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: FreedomPoster

You didn’t post this one but it is a good informative thread.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2505635/posts


16 posted on 05/13/2010 6:47:40 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: cripplecreek

First they came for the Hutaree and I said nothing because I was not a Hutaree . . .


17 posted on 05/13/2010 6:58:23 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: Paladin2
ne’er-do-wells

Really?

18 posted on 05/13/2010 7:04:24 AM PDT by ExGeeEye (When law-makers and law enforcers become law-breakers, the citizens feel free to join in.)
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To: cripplecreek

I take it back. Mine was an article about the hearing testimony that ultimately led to the judge saying they could be released on bail.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2502130/posts


19 posted on 05/13/2010 7:08:16 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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To: ExGeeEye
Did they go to Yale? Harvard?, Columbia?

QED.

20 posted on 05/13/2010 7:43:16 AM PDT by Paladin2
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