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Mexicans fleeing from the Mexican Revolution now flee from poverty and drug cartels.
Youtube ^ | Racehorse

Posted on 05/20/2010 11:53:30 AM PDT by Racehorse

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_9oCv396yU


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: amnesty; border; crime; immigration; importingsocialists; invasion; mexico; refugees

1 posted on 05/20/2010 11:53:30 AM PDT by Racehorse
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To: Racehorse

How do we embed Youtube and other media sources?

Does FreeRepublic only support texting?

Don’t know. Just asking.

Best,
R.


2 posted on 05/20/2010 11:58:34 AM PDT by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: Racehorse

And since America is a life boat big enough to hold everybody in the world, hell, let’s just let ‘em all in.


3 posted on 05/20/2010 11:58:43 AM PDT by Spok (Free Range Republican)
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To: Racehorse

You can’t embed. Only post links.


4 posted on 05/20/2010 12:05:55 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: Spok

Everybody?

No.

Whomever gave ground or birth to you, maybe good thing we can’t take that close of a look at your voluntary disclosed immigration history . . . should you care to.

Full life boat . . . early fifties movies . . . who chooses?

Love ya,
R.


5 posted on 05/20/2010 12:06:53 PM PDT by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: Racehorse

I didn’t think the sarcasm notification was necessary. /sarc


6 posted on 05/20/2010 12:09:48 PM PDT by Spok (Free Range Republican)
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To: Racehorse

Mexico has a radical idea for a rational immigration policy that most Americans would love. However, Mexican officials haven’t been sharing that idea with us as they press for our Congress to adopt the McCain-Kennedy immigration reform bill.

That’s too bad, because Mexico, which annually deports more illegal aliens than the United States does, has much to teach us about how it handles the immigration issue. Under Mexican law, it is a felony to be an illegal alien in Mexico.

At a time when the Supreme Court and many politicians seek to bring American law in line with foreign legal norms, it’s noteworthy that nobody has argued that the U.S. look at how Mexico deals with immigration and what it might teach us about how best to solve our illegal immigration problem. Mexico has a single, streamlined law that ensures that foreign visitors and immigrants are:

* in the country legally;

* have the means to sustain themselves economically;

* not destined to be burdens on society;

* of economic and social benefit to society;

* of good character and have no criminal records; and

* contributors to the general well-being of the nation.

The law also ensures that:

* immigration authorities have a record of each foreign visitor;

* foreign visitors do not violate their visa status;

* foreign visitors are banned from interfering in the country’s internal politics;

* foreign visitors who enter under false pretenses are imprisoned or deported;

* foreign visitors violating the terms of their entry are imprisoned or deported;

* those who aid in illegal immigration will be sent to prison.

Who could disagree with such a law? It makes perfect sense. The Mexican constitution strictly defines the rights of citizens — and the denial of many fundamental rights to non-citizens, illegal and illegal. Under the constitution, the Ley General de Población, or General Law on Population, spells out specifically the country’s immigration policy.

It is an interesting law — and one that should cause us all to ask, Why is our great southern neighbor pushing us to water down our own immigration laws and policies, when its own immigration restrictions are the toughest on the continent? If a felony is a crime punishable by more than one year in prison, then Mexican law makes it a felony to be an illegal alien in Mexico.

If the United States adopted such statutes, Mexico no doubt would denounce it as a manifestation of American racism and bigotry.

We looked at the immigration provisions of the Mexican constitution. [1] Now let’s look at Mexico’s main immigration law.

Mexico welcomes only foreigners who will be useful to Mexican society:

* Foreigners are admitted into Mexico “according to their possibilities of contributing to national progress.” (Article 32)

* Immigration officials must “ensure” that “immigrants will be useful elements for the country and that they have the necessary funds for their sustenance” and for their dependents. (Article 34)

* Foreigners may be barred from the country if their presence upsets “the equilibrium of the national demographics,” when foreigners are deemed detrimental to “economic or national interests,” when they do not behave like good citizens in their own country, when they have broken Mexican laws, and when “they are not found to be physically or mentally healthy.” (Article 37)

* The Secretary of Governance may “suspend or prohibit the admission of foreigners when he determines it to be in the national interest.” (Article 38)

Mexican authorities must keep track of every single person in the country:

* Federal, local and municipal police must cooperate with federal immigration authorities upon request, i.e., to assist in the arrests of illegal immigrants. (Article 73)

* A National Population Registry keeps track of “every single individual who comprises the population of the country,” and verifies each individual’s identity. (Articles 85 and 86)

* A national Catalog of Foreigners tracks foreign tourists and immigrants (Article 87), and assigns each individual with a unique tracking number (Article 91).

Foreigners with fake papers, or who enter the country under false pretenses, may be imprisoned:

* Foreigners with fake immigration papers may be fined or imprisoned. (Article 116)

* Foreigners who sign government documents “with a signature that is false or different from that which he normally uses” are subject to fine and imprisonment. (Article 116)

Foreigners who fail to obey the rules will be fined, deported, and/or imprisoned as felons:

* Foreigners who fail to obey a deportation order are to be punished. (Article 117)

* Foreigners who are deported from Mexico and attempt to re-enter the country without authorization can be imprisoned for up to 10 years. (Article 118)

* Foreigners who violate the terms of their visa may be sentenced to up to six years in prison (Articles 119, 120 and 121). Foreigners who misrepresent the terms of their visa while in Mexico — such as working with out a permit — can also be imprisoned.

Under Mexican law, illegal immigration is a felony. The General Law on Population says,

* “A penalty of up to two years in prison and a fine of three hundred to five thousand pesos will be imposed on the foreigner who enters the country illegally.” (Article 123)

* Foreigners with legal immigration problems may be deported from Mexico instead of being imprisoned. (Article 125)

* Foreigners who “attempt against national sovereignty or security” will be deported. (Article 126)

Mexicans who help illegal aliens enter the country are themselves considered criminals under the law:

* A Mexican who marries a foreigner with the sole objective of helping the foreigner live in the country is subject to up to five years in prison. (Article 127)

* Shipping and airline companies that bring undocumented foreigners into Mexico will be fined. (Article 132)

All of the above runs contrary to what Mexican leaders are demanding of the United States. The stark contrast between Mexico’s immigration practices versus its American immigration preachings is telling. It gives a clear picture of the Mexican government’s agenda: to have a one-way immigration relationship with the United States.

Let’s call Mexico’s bluff on its unwarranted interference in U.S. immigration policy. Let’s propose, just to make a point, that the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) member nations standardize their immigration laws by using Mexico’s own law as a model.


7 posted on 05/20/2010 12:11:35 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Racehorse

Well why don’t they start “fleeing” SOUTH!!!


8 posted on 05/20/2010 12:12:45 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: Oldpuppymax

“Well why don’t they start “fleeing” SOUTH!!!”

Because all the ones in the ‘south’ are coming here with/by way of the Mexicans.


9 posted on 05/20/2010 12:17:22 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: Don Corleone

Thanks for posting this.

Any of us who have traveled to Mexico even before 9/11 know how strict and severe Mexican laws are re entry and to those wanting to immigrate to Mexico.

Just make their laws the laws of the US when it comes to illegals from Mexico and those wanting to come here legally.


10 posted on 05/20/2010 12:18:43 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
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To: Spok
I didn’t think the sarcasm notification was necessary. /sarc

Willingly giving the benefit of doubt, without sarcasm nor understanding what you meant to write in your post, I don't have any idea what you meant to communicate to me.

My fault.

Maybe.

Best,

R.

11 posted on 05/20/2010 12:30:30 PM PDT by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: Grampa Dave

There’s a difference. Americans are not desperate to get to Mexico, and not even American criminals are particularly interested in going there.

I think we need to do two things: develop a short-term visa program for Mexicans, and start really going after criminals from anywhere. Remember, it’s not Mexicans who have been trying to set off bombs in the US - it’s Southeast Asians and Middle Easterners who came here LEGALLY and then overstayed their visas, or in some case are even still here legally.

But we never pursue outright criminals, and we never pursue students or temporary visa holders who overstay their visas. And nobody is ever going to ask any questions about why we permit so much Muslim immigration (which was specifically increased by Obama less than a month after he took office).


12 posted on 05/20/2010 1:16:17 PM PDT by livius
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To: livius

Actually, before the Mexican Drug Mafia took over, in the last couple of decades in the past century, Mexico was a prime retirement place for many Americans.

My wife and I could be very happy on the Mexican Pacific Coast from Jan to the end of March if it wasn’t for the criminals in Mexico.

Things started going bad down there in the last 10-13 years, and no one really feels safe down there.


13 posted on 05/20/2010 1:25:31 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
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To: Grampa Dave

Mexico could be wonderful. I read an interesting article in the WSJ about Calderon, who apparently started his war on the drug barons within a month of taking office.

The prior president, Fox, was also from the conservative party, but he never took on the drug lords and he was also, on a personal level, a nutcase. He was the one whose wife briefly barricaded herself in the Presidential Palace...because he was dumping her for his sweetie. He made conservatives look like loonies.

Calderon is better, but he has been completely taken over by the US left, mostly because so many conservatives hate Mexico. However, the big problem is that he wants to stop the drug trade, and the US (under Obama) does not. So he’s gotten no support.

The only reason Colombia got support in stopping the drug trade and Marxist guerrillas (one and the same) was because of Reagan. Poor Calderon is a fool and doesn’t realize that Obama has no interest whatsoever in stopping either the drug trade or Marxism.

Poor Mexico. It could be a great place. I was going to go to a conference in a southern Mexican city in the fall, but I decided against it because Mexico is just too crazy.


14 posted on 05/20/2010 2:40:48 PM PDT by livius
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