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S.C. Democrats To Deliberate Mystery Nominee's Fate (RAT hearing on winning GOP plant Alvin Greene)
GPB ^ | 6/16/10

Posted on 06/16/2010 7:29:31 PM PDT by Libloather

S.C. Democrats To Deliberate Mystery Nominee's Fate
By Peter Overby
Wed., June 16, 2010 6:43pm (EDT)
Updated: 3 hours ago

Democrats in South Carolina are still wondering just what happened last week when they picked their nominee for U.S. Senate.

The easy winner in the primary was Alvin Greene, a cipher of a candidate who had no visible campaign. The losing candidate is protesting the outcome, and the state Democratic Party will hold a hearing on the matter Thursday.

Since the primary, Greene has done some TV interviews, but he's also hung up on a lot of reporters. He didn't respond Wednesday to e-mail and phone messages from NPR.

He did have a fairly gentle talk a few days ago with conservative radio commentator Mark Levin.

"I'm not focusing on campaigning," he said in the interview, which aired Monday. "I'm just going to stick with, you know, my, the issues that I'm focusing on." He listed jobs, education and justice.

"We have to be sure that the punishment fits the crime, and ... I believe that I am the best candidate for United States Senate."

Greene, 32, graduated from the University of South Carolina in 2000 with a degree in political science. He served in the Air Force and then in the Army until last August. Now he's unemployed.

Last November, Greene was hit with a felony obscenity charge. He got a public defender -- a sign that he couldn't afford a lawyer.

Then, in March, he filed as a candidate. He had to pay s10,440 for a filing fee -- and he did so by check.

"I saved it -- I saved my -- in the Army," he said about the money when he appeared on Levin's show.

Many Democrats say the money is a red flag. Rep. James Clyburn, the House majority whip, considers Greene a plant -- a tool of dirty tricksters in a state famous for its alley-fight politics.

The watchdog group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington has asked for investigations by the Federal Election Commission and the South Carolina attorney general.

"All they'd have to look at is his bank records," says CREW director Melanie Sloan. "And if he had the s10,000, it was his money, well, that's really case closed on that end. But if he didn't, then there should be further investigation into whether or not there were folks pulling the strings here."

South Carolina makes it a misdemeanor to induce someone or to be induced to run for office. The attorney general says he hasn't seen credible evidence of a crime. But there's little evidence of a campaign, either.

No stump speeches. No campaign office or phone. No website. No reports of any fundraising or spending. Certainly no TV ads.

The losing candidate was Vic Rawl, a former state legislator. He spent heavily to get clobbered by Greene, 59 to 41 percent.

On Wednesday, Common Cause and Voter Action asked South Carolina to investigate whether its voting machines were hacked.

A lot of people in South Carolina are asking: How did Greene win a hundred thousand votes?

"I have no idea. I mean I have no idea whatsoever," says Joe Erwin, a former chairman of the state Democratic Party.

"I've talked to maybe, you know, 50, 60, 75 people that I know around the state. And seemingly nobody knew anything about this guy, and nobody can tell me of anybody who voted for him, or supported him in any way whatsoever."

Whatever the outcome of Rawl's protest before the state Democratic executive committee, the Republican in the race, incumbent Sen. Jim DeMint isn't likely to suffer.

Something that can't be said for the state's political reputation.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: alvin; alvingreene; greene; scdemocrats; southcarolina; wca
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ALVIN!

Can the RATS disqualify a winning candidate - just because? Eww. Maybe we can go back and review the Hussein election.


"But he's doing it all wrong!"

1 posted on 06/16/2010 7:29:32 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

What a wild story.

Can’t figure out why the left is so hysterical about this.

Obviously the guy won. Fair and square. He’s an Obama supporter, so he’s obviously not GOP.

All I can figure out, is the dems must have had some sort of huge plans for the guy he beat.


2 posted on 06/16/2010 7:32:00 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Palin / Rubio 2012)
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To: Libloather

Racist bastards.


3 posted on 06/16/2010 7:32:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (JUST VOTE THEM OUT! teapartyexpress.org)
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To: Libloather

“I have no idea. I mean I have no idea whatsoever,” says Joe Erwin, a former chairman of the state Democratic Party.

“I’ve talked to maybe, you know, 50, 60, 75 people that I know around the state. And seemingly nobody knew anything about this guy, and nobody can tell me of anybody who voted for him, or supported him in any way whatsoever.”

Wasn’t there some well-known political writer back in the late 60s who, when Nixon got elected, wondered aloud how that could have happened because no one he knew had voted for him?


4 posted on 06/16/2010 7:33:08 PM PDT by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: Libloather

The commie ‘RATS are getting ready to disenfranchise 100,000 ‘RAT voters just because the white boys down at the DNC do not like the candidate the voters elected.


5 posted on 06/16/2010 7:33:49 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Hey America! Had enough "history" yet?)
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To: Libloather

The watchdog group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington has asked for investigations by the Federal Election Commission and the South Carolina attorney general.

“All they’d have to look at is his bank records,” says CREW director Melanie Sloan. “And if he had the s10,000, it was his money, well, that’s really case closed on that end. But if he didn’t, then there should be further investigation into whether or not there were folks pulling the strings here.”


ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS LOOK AT OBAMA’S LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE IF HE WAS BORN IN KAPIOLANI THEN THATS THAT PART OF NBC We can move on to his alien father....


6 posted on 06/16/2010 7:36:48 PM PDT by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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To: Libloather
They are always harping about democracy - let's see how the hypocrites handle this one.
7 posted on 06/16/2010 7:37:15 PM PDT by Iron Munro (I prayed: "O Lord make my enemies ridiculous."And God granted it. ~ Voltaire)
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To: Libloather

The man got the votes.
Eat it.


8 posted on 06/16/2010 7:38:48 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: Little Pig

I think the answer is clear: To the average South Carolina voter, this was a contest between Al Green and Lou Rawls.

Al Green won. Probably because most South Carolina voters knew that Lou Rawls had passed away in 2006 and didn’t want to waste their vote on a dead guy.


9 posted on 06/16/2010 7:39:30 PM PDT by John Valentine
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To: Libloather

Does any Dem in SC have any chance of beating DeMint? I wouldn’t think so.


10 posted on 06/16/2010 7:40:56 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: Libloather

...looking at that it didn’t look right.
I didn’t mean you, I meant those kicking up the fuss.

Sorry. I knew what I was thinking.

They know that he can’t win so they will do anything, unethical though it may be, to destroy him.


11 posted on 06/16/2010 7:41:02 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: Libloather
"I saved it -- I saved my -- in the Army," he said about the money when he appeared on Levin's show.

And the next question and "answer" after that was very revealing. Mark said something like, so you've been saving up for quite a while, to which Greene responded not really.

So, on one hand Greene is saying he saved it, and in the other hand saying he got the money only recently.

12 posted on 06/16/2010 7:44:27 PM PDT by C210N (0bama, Making the world safe for Marxism)
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To: Libloather

This guy has a college degree?

My god!


13 posted on 06/16/2010 7:45:58 PM PDT by blam
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To: Libloather
I believe South Carolina has the highest percentage of African Americans of any state. Obviously, African Americans make up a very large percentage of the Democrat constituency. If the Democrats dump Allen, they may alienate their core constituency in an election which is unwinnable in the first place.
14 posted on 06/16/2010 7:46:07 PM PDT by magellan
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To: Libloather

The SC democRat party should nullify the nomination. After all, the people voted for the wrong guy.

Reminds me of Algore v Bush in Florida.


15 posted on 06/16/2010 7:46:18 PM PDT by gitmo ( The democRats drew first blood. It's our turn now.)
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To: C210N

I read today (I think it was here) that Greene pretty much kept to himself in Korea where he was stationed, and didn’t spend money. Didn’t buy gadgets, or splurge, pretty much just kept to himself.

That’s a pretty good way to accumulate walking around money.


16 posted on 06/16/2010 7:46:42 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Palin / Rubio 2012)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
All I can figure out, is the dems must have had some sort of huge plans for the guy he beat.

Well, it's a Senate seat.

17 posted on 06/16/2010 7:47:01 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Libloather

He won’t beat Demint, not even close but He won the primary. It doesnt matter how much they protest...He won...end of story.


18 posted on 06/16/2010 7:48:25 PM PDT by barmag25
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To: Libloather

So...if he’s lost, I’m SURE the Dems would have returned his $10,000+

Right?


19 posted on 06/16/2010 7:48:30 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: C210N

I interpret that exchange a bit differently.

The phrase “saving up for” implies purpose-driven saving. I think that is what Greene was denying.

He had been banking his pay, but not “saving up.” When he needed the filing fee, he took the money out of the bank. He had it; it was there; he availed it. No “saving up” involved.


20 posted on 06/16/2010 7:48:52 PM PDT by John Valentine
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