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To: wagglebee

I don’t understand why the state thinks they should have an interest in the way an “adult” chooses to live or die.
People every day choose to shorten their lives by living unhealthy lifestyles. Should we regulate that too?


16 posted on 06/19/2010 1:15:52 PM PDT by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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To: Katya

Who mentioned regulation?


21 posted on 06/19/2010 1:20:16 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Katya
I don’t understand why the state thinks they should have an interest in the way an “adult” chooses to...die.

Because the founders of this country said that the protection of innocent human life is the most important reason for the existence of human government. They called the right to life "unalienable," which had a very specific meaning in European property law. It all belonged to the sovereign, and was only lent to the occupant by that sovereign. It couldn't rightfully be taken from you, and you couldn't rightfully give it away.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men..."

This is the first principle of America, upon which our republican form of government and our liberty are premised.

This is why suicide has always been illegal in this country. Your life belongs to God, who is the Sovereign, not to you. And the state, which in America means the sovereign people collectively, governing through their representatives and duly-appointed officers, has a sworn constitutional duty to protect that life, the life of every single individual.

By the way, throughout history, when this cornerstone precept is abandoned in human societies, all hell breaks loose.

Abandon the self-evident truth that all men are created, and created equal, and respect for innocent human life, the lives of those who are made in His image, is the first thing to go. And then liberty simply melts away in the wake of that folly. All of human history is a record of the truth of what I'm saying.

23 posted on 06/19/2010 1:49:41 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("I hate Illinois Nazis.")
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To: Katya

People who support doctor assisted suicide/eutanasia never address the issue of euthanasia without consent - aka “murder” which invariably happens when doctor asssisted suicide/euthanasia is legalized. There have been a spate of articles about this lately.

Anyone who wants can commit suicide right this very minute.

People who want the the stamp of legal approval from the government, what to speak of medical assistance, are the true nanny state meddlers.

Keep your death loving suicidal impulses private and no one will say anything. Trying to get the government involved, and calling it “private decisions” is sheer hyporisy.


24 posted on 06/19/2010 1:51:22 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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