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The Next Big Crisis: State Bankruptcies
Jewish World Review ^ | 6/22/10 | Dick Morris and Eileen McGann

Posted on 06/23/2010 6:17:34 AM PDT by rhema

Many say that the situation in Greece is a harbinger of what is coming to the United States. They are right. But first it will come to states like New York, California and Michigan, which are stretched way beyond their means and deeply in debt.

Until now, the problems in these states have been papered over by federal aid. Essentially, Washington has relieved these states (and the local governments they fund) of their constitutional obligations to balance their budgets by giving them welfare checks in the nick of time. Barack Obama now seeks to pass $50 billion in additional welfare to the states.

But, since these federal funds are not necessarily recurring — and the jobs and obligations they fund are — they simply enlarge each year's deficit hole and enable the states to go more deeply into the red.

As these deficits mount — particularly if a newly elected Republican House and/or Senate refuse to fund them — bondholders will get more and more nervous. Eventually, they will realize that the less solvent states are bankrupt and will refuse to buy their debt. Eyes in Sacramento, Lansing and Albany will turn helplessly to Washington to guarantee their debt, just as Athens turns to Berlin.

Republicans, if they control either or both Houses, should stand firm and insist that these states sink or swim on their own. America's taxpayers will not take kindly to having to bail out other states — or even their own — to pay for years of reckless spending. Americans will swarm to the GOP and will hail its stand.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: bankruptstates; publicsectorunions; unions
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1 posted on 06/23/2010 6:17:35 AM PDT by rhema
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To: rhema
But first it will come to states like New York, California and Michigan, which are stretched way beyond their means and deeply in debt.

Tweeeeet! Improper use of the passive voice to avoid blame. Proper usage is "which have spent massively more than they should."

2 posted on 06/23/2010 6:23:02 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (I am so immune to satire that I ate three Irish children after reading Swift's "A Modest Proposal")
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To: rhema
Worth Repeating:

America's taxpayers will not take kindly to having to bail out other states


3 posted on 06/23/2010 6:24:35 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: KarlInOhio

Great call, news ref!


4 posted on 06/23/2010 6:27:00 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: rhema
Republicans, if they control either or both Houses, should stand firm and insist that these states sink or swim on their own. America's taxpayers will not take kindly to having to bail out other states — or even their own — to pay for years of reckless spending. Americans will swarm to the GOP and will hail its stand.

Let's hope so Dick.

5 posted on 06/23/2010 6:29:04 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: rhema

It will take more than $50 B to bail just those few states alone, much less the other states that are in bad shape, especially those states that have had large natural disasters this year, some of them multiple ones..


6 posted on 06/23/2010 6:33:18 AM PDT by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, retired Military, disabled & Seniors)
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To: rhema
Republicans, if they control either or both Houses, should stand firm and insist that these states sink or swim on their own.

Easier said than done. Most of the problem stems from unfunded federal mandates and state union contracts/pensions. The only solution may be to declare bankruptcy and all these contracts get renegotiated. I don't think any politician has the b@lls to do that. Does anyone have a better suggestion?

BTW is anyone else sick to death of hearing how "The American people don't want to pay for all the government programs they demand.". Personally I wish they'd get rid of most of the crap they fund.

7 posted on 06/23/2010 6:36:26 AM PDT by YankeeReb
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To: rhema

Satellite states of the Beltway.


8 posted on 06/23/2010 6:37:11 AM PDT by Varsity Flight
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To: rhema

Never let a crisis go to waste. Is it time to nationalize those states as they grabbed GM and Chrysler, Citi and BofA, and our medical industry?


9 posted on 06/23/2010 6:38:40 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: rhema; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; genetic homophobe; FromLori; ...
RE :”Until now, the problems in these states have been papered over by federal aid. Essentially, Washington has relieved these states (and the local governments they fund) of their constitutional obligations to balance their budgets by giving them welfare checks in the nick of time. Barack Obama now seeks to pass $50 billion in additional welfare to the states. But, since these federal funds are not necessarily recurring — and the jobs and obligations they fund are — they simply enlarge each year's deficit hole and enable the states to go more deeply into the red.As these deficits mount — particularly if a newly elected Republican House and/or Senate refuse to fund them — bondholders will get more and more nervous. Eventually, they will realize that the less solvent states are bankrupt and will refuse to buy their debt. Eyes in Sacramento, Lansing and Albany will turn helplessly to Washington to guarantee their debt, just as Athens turns to Berlin.

Isn't it the federal governments primary job to take money away from responsible states and give it to the irresponsible ones like NY and CA?? If one of your kids had a paper route and the other got arrested for stealing wouldnt it be your job to take away the good kids money to help bail out the bad kid? Are you heartless??? :)

Thank Obama, he turned the country against this sort of idiotic logic, but that wasnt his intention.

10 posted on 06/23/2010 6:57:06 AM PDT by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: YankeeReb
I heard Ron Paul mention that we should bring all our troops back home on American shores; of course I always thought that was short sighted and reckless. Then Paul said that we are going to end up doing that anyway in a couple years when we go broke and end up like Russia in early 90s. That really hit the mark.

I tend to believe the same thing will occur with respect to spending overall in our country; just wish the politicals would accomplish it in a systematic manner rather than having hell in the streets across America when the bottom falls out.

Those Dem states are in for a big awakening. I'm just glad I live in rural Alaska; pretty much isolated from everything and have done without for so long (stores & food from Sams) that I could continue this way and not even notice.

11 posted on 06/23/2010 7:03:01 AM PDT by Eska
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To: sickoflibs; Grampa Dave; stephenjohnbanker; TommyDale; rhema; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; ...
Obama now seeks $50 billion in additional welfare to the states..........

California alone is looking at a yawning $500 Billion hole in its obligations.

The $50B is another Ohaha slush fund.

12 posted on 06/23/2010 7:04:28 AM PDT by Liz (If teens can procreate in a Volkswagen, why does a spotted owl need 2000 acres? JD Hayworth)
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To: Eska

I’m convinced that hell in the streets and civil war are part of the magic muslim’s plans for this country. Another day, another outrage and another assault on our liberty.


13 posted on 06/23/2010 7:29:50 AM PDT by YankeeReb
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To: YankeeReb
I’m convinced that hell in the streets and civil war are part of the magic muslim’s plans for this country. Another day, another outrage and another assault on our liberty.

You can visualize it fairly easily. The 52% of the population that don't pay taxes and rely on social programs stop getting checks. They go out into the areas what the other 48% live and start taking what they are "owed." Shooting will commence.

14 posted on 06/23/2010 7:37:50 AM PDT by IamConservative (Liberty is all a good man needs to succeed.)
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To: rhema

This is impossible because massive Keynesian Spending stimulates the economy.

Paul Krugman told me so.


15 posted on 06/23/2010 7:39:58 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (0bummer calls opponents "Teabaggers". So we can call Kagan "Carpet Muncher." Right?)
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To: rhema

This is impossible because massive Keynesian Spending stimulates the economy.

Nobel Prize winning economist Paul Krugman told me so.


16 posted on 06/23/2010 7:40:26 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (0bummer calls opponents "Teabaggers". So we can call Kagan "Carpet Muncher." Right?)
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To: rhema

I don’t want to pay for California’s irresponsible spending. Period. They made their bed, let them lie in it.


17 posted on 06/23/2010 7:42:14 AM PDT by GOPJ (http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php?area=dam&lang=eng)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Ummm - the “/s” is missing - and yeah - there are liberals who will take you at your word...


18 posted on 06/23/2010 7:43:20 AM PDT by GOPJ (http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php?area=dam&lang=eng)
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To: sickoflibs
If you were to look at a list of states and compare their Federal tax burdens to the amount of money they receive in Federal spending, you might be surprised to find that "Blue" states like New York and Massachusetts are among those that pay a hell of a lot more in taxes than they get back in Federal spending -- and the biggest "recipient" states tend to be "Red" states.

There are a number of reasons for this, of course -- including the fact that more urban states have higher living costs (and therefore people have higher salaries and pay higher income taxes) and fewer military facilities and Indian reservations.

But this idea that the Federal govermnent is propping up these "Blue" states is a myth.

19 posted on 06/23/2010 7:56:48 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Let the Eastern bastards freeze in the dark.")
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RE :”If you were to look at a list of states and compare their Federal tax burdens to the amount of money they receive in Federal spending, you might be surprised to find that “Blue” states like New York and Massachusetts are among those that pay a hell of a lot more in taxes than they get back in Federal spending — and the biggest “recipient” states tend to be “Red” states. There are a number of reasons for this, of course — including the fact that more urban states have higher living costs (and therefore people have higher salaries and pay higher income taxes) and fewer military facilities and Indian reservations.

Good point.

This is because those high cost of living coastal states demand Washington IMPOSE a more and more redistributed progressive federal income and capital tax. This would be like the Jews voting for Hitler and then complaining about it. If those states want their ‘tax money’ used on them then they would support less federal government so they could raise their local taxes more to spend as they want it. (This would cause them problems too.) The whole idea of redistribution is ‘someone else get’s others money’. It is not 'you get to keep your own money'. In a way I would like to see the AMT tax go up under Obama to make those liberals scream.

Yes, I know Republicans were a big part of the federal expansion problem.

20 posted on 06/23/2010 8:26:29 AM PDT by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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