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To: IbJensen
"I think we've learned a couple of things.... No. 1 is precedent trumps original intent. That is very worrisome for a Supreme Court. What that says is you discount what is in the Constitution, and the learned men of today have more wisdom and more knowledge than what our founders did."

Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.)

He's just figuring this out now? Of course, there is an internal contradiction in his complaint. The Constitution created the SCOTUS. The "learned men of today" are empowered by Article 3. It's not as if this wasn't understood at the time of the ratification:

They will be able to extend the limits of the general government gradually, and by insensible degrees, and to accommodate themselves to the temper of the people. Their decisions on the meaning of the constitution will commonly take place in cases which arise between individuals, with which the public will not be generally acquainted. One adjudication will form a precedent to the next, and this to a following one.

Brutus, March 1788

They [the courts] will give the sense of every article of the constitution, that may from time to time come before them. And in their decisions they will not confine themselves to any fixed or established rules, but will determine, according to what appears to them, the reason and spirit of the constitution. The opinions of the supreme court, whatever they may be, will have the force of law; because there is no power provided in the constitution that can correct their errors, or control their adjudications. From this court there is no appeal. And I conceive the legislature themselves, cannot set aside a judgment of this court, because they are authorised by the constitution to decide in the last resort. The legislature must be controlled by the constitution, and not the constitution by them. They have therefore no more right to set aside any judgment pronounced upon the construction of the constitution, than they have to take from the president, the chief command of the army and navy, and commit it to some other person. The reason is plain; the judicial and executive derive their authority from the same source, that the legislature do theirs; and therefore in all cases, where the constitution does not make the one responsible to, or controllable by the other, they are altogether independent of each other. The judicial power will operate to effect, in the most certain, but yet silent and imperceptible manner, what is evidently the tendency of the constitution: I mean, an entire subversion of the legislative, executive and judicial powers of the individual states. Every adjudication of the supreme court, on any question that may arise upon the nature and extent of the general government, will affect the limits of the state jurisdiction. In proportion as the former enlarge the exercise of their powers, will that of the latter be restricted.

Brutus, Jan 1788

It is to be observed, that the supreme court has the power, in the last resort, to determine all questions that may arise in the course of legal discussion, on the meaning and construction of the constitution. This power they will hold under the constitution, and independent of the legislature. The latter can no more deprive the former of this right, than either of them, or both of them together, can take from the president, with the advice of the senate, the power of making treaties, or appointing ambassadors. In determining these questions, the court must and will assume certain principles, from which they will reason, in forming their decisions. These principles, whatever they may be, when they become fixed by a course of decisions, will be adopted by the legislature, and will be the rule by which they will explain their own powers.

Brutus, Feb 1788


6 posted on 07/03/2010 4:55:56 AM PDT by Huck (Q: How can you tell a party is in the minority? A: They're complaining about the deficit.)
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To: Huck

So Huck, do you have an answer to the problem of “textual drift” (my term, just made up). Because it’s a serious problem for religions and Constitutions. The text says A but the practice becomes B with supporting authority outside the text gathering over time. I do not have a Constitutional solution . . . and suspect there is not one that is solid. My solution is a moral populace that interprets the rules.

Christ is the solution. Everything else is entrusted to man . . . and man is a sinner and ultimately misses the mark.


10 posted on 07/03/2010 5:05:00 AM PDT by Mere Survival (The time to fight was yesterday, but now will have to do.)
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