Obamacare Should Be Repealed But That Should Be Just The First Step

Biggovernment.com ^ | 7/18/10 | Dan Mitchell

[starczar66]

"Republicans in the House of Representatives are seeking to force a vote, using a discharge petition, on repealing Obamacare. This has caused some infighting since some Republicans want to simply repeal the monstrosity that passed earlier this year, while other GOPers are in the repeal-and-replace camp (Heritage Action is leading the pure repeal effort and National Review has good coverage here and here).

I’m not an expert on the politics of healthcare and discharge petitions, but my gut instinct is that a pure repeal vote is the best short-term strategy..."

[antonico]

Clearly, it should be repealed. But it never ever will be, I’m sad to say. Even if you get House Control next cycle, you will never get 2/3 Veto Override group there needed to repeal it. And you’ll never get 67 idiots in the Senate to do it if by some miracle the House manages to do it. We’re stuck with it.

[SierraWasp]

I may have to BOOKMARK this thread so’s I can taunt you later, right?

[SierraWasp]

Git out your stationery and git on the telephone and forget email and fax cause they only pay close attention to hand written notes and/or personal phone messages. Git out there and git ‘er done!!!

[TruthHound]

Stop when Øbama’s in a perp walk.

[Rome2000]

while other GOPers are in the repeal-and-replace camp

I've got the lamp posts, all we need is some rope.

[HerrBlucher]

No we are not stuck with it. First there are countless lawsuits against it for being unconstitutional and there are several states preparing to opt out. Second it can be defunded immediately if pubbies take control of the house. Third, when we dump Obama in 12 then we won’t need a two thirds majority. The worst thing we can do now is to passively accept Obamacare as inevitable.

[Galactic Overlord-In-Chief]

The worst thing we can do now is to passively accept Obamacare as inevitable.

Good point. After all, the left doesn't accept capitalism as inevitable. Look how far they got on their tenacity.

[Tzimisce]

Unless you have 2/3s of both houses of Congress to override a veto, any attempt at repeal is DOA.

[Cobra64]

The entire bil has to be repealed. There are too many pieces in ine this that artertwined with other laws.

[JohnBovenmyer]

LOTS of bills need repealing. Some need to be swapped for something better, but many could be improved by replacement with their status quo ante. For that we need a bill modelled on the DeMint model for repealing ObamaCare. . . but somewhat longer: " The following named bills are hereby repealed (insert list)."

Conservatives should start collecting candidates for the list now and continue to build it through the 2012 elections. Obviously they can't make it law any sooner. Once the magnitude of the majorities supporting the new president is known they should tweak the candidates into a bill - 2000 pages sounds about right - the new congress is capable of passing. Ideally finishing hearings with the new Congress during the last couple weeks of Obama. It should go to the new president within days of her inauguration, so she can sign it, and a similarly pruning executive order, promptly. Then move onto the items too complicated to refudiate this way.

[lurk]

Until January of 2013, abolition of ObamaCare is not likely.

The best one can do is seek to de-fund, challenge, change and snip around the edges. And prep thoroughly to run freedom-loving statesmen in every elected office in every level of government henceforth in perpetuity.

Evil never sleeps.

[okie01]

Unless you have 2/3s of both houses of Congress to override a veto, any attempt at repeal is DOA.

Of course, it is. But that doesn't mean the GOP shouldn't try to pass a repeal in both houses -- forcing Obama to veto it.

Then, they can refuse to fund it.

That's called keeping faith with their voters.

[hosepipe]

Only way to delete Obamacare is to defund it..
But it must be done while defunding much more of the federal government..
The defunding must cover a hundred programs.. they cannot fight to reinstate them all..

[Frantzie]

He needs to be impeached sooner. Sadly TV controls the idiot masses with ball games and other idiocy plus ENDLESS propaganda.

Until people cancel TV service then the propaganda will continue along with the propping up the usurper.

[HerrBlucher]

I’m with you on the tv bashing, its garbage. I gave up tv many years ago and will never go back. Still people want to watch it. They would be better off shoving their head into a pile of cow manure.

[wiggen]

You can get a repeal in early 2012 when elections are staring them in the face again. I doubt its sooner because politicians are not that smart but between the number of pubbies in and the number of dems facing losing their jobs it very well could occur then. Sooner sounds implausible to me but i would like to be wrong about that.

[anton]

I would like to see a GOP Presidential candidate who has a list of programs he will not implement and persons who he will fire on day one.

For Congress, I would like to see candidates who will not fund BO’s programs by refusing to vote for any budget bill with money for the President’s implementation of them.

[calex59]

I gave TV up also, but waited until just recently to do so. It spared my family from being brain washed.