Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

CLASS is the next huge taxpayer bailout
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/jul/26/riedl-class-is-the-next-huge-taxpayer-bailout/?page=1 ^

Posted on 07/27/2010 2:18:30 PM PDT by roses of sharon

Are you ready for the next massive taxpayer bailout?

Many of the same lawmakers who infuriated taxpayers by bailing out Wall Street, the auto companies, and Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac recently created a new program virtually guaranteed to require bailouts.

And unlike those one-time bailouts, this one will become an annual taxpayer expense.

The Community Living Assistance Services and Supports (CLASS) Act is a new long-term care insurance program. The concept had floated around Washington for years before Congress inserted it into the Obamacare health law — most likely to provide a $70 billion piggybank that could be raided to cover up Obamacare's initial deficits. Yet this ticking entitlement time bomb could cost future taxpayers trillions of dollars.

***

For this reason, the Congressional Budget Office, the chief actuary for the Medicare program, and the American Academy of Actuaries have all acknowledged that CLASS is unsustainable.

In fact, Senate Budget Committee Chairman Kent Conrad, North Dakota Democrat, calls CLASS "a Ponzi scheme of the first order, the kind of thing that Bernie Madoff would have been proud of."

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: bailout; class; economics; entitlement; healthcare; obamacare; repeal; taxpayer; unsustainable
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-22 next last
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Reports/2010/07/The-CLASS-Act-Repeal-Now-or-Face-Permanent-Taxpayer-Bailout-Later

The CLASS Act: Repeal Now, or Face Permanent Taxpayer Bailout Later

Health economists call this an “adverse-selection death spiral,” and it would likely end in program bankruptcy. The CBO, the Department of Health and Human Services, and even the American Academy of Actuaries all agree that CLASS is unsustainable. Once it goes bankrupt (likely in 15 to 25 years), the subsequent taxpayer bailouts could cost trillions of dollars.

The best way to avoid a bailout would be to repeal CLASS before it begins enrolling participants and collecting premiums, which could be as soon as January 1, 2011.

IS ANYONE IN CONGRESS PAYING ATTENTION??

1 posted on 07/27/2010 2:18:32 PM PDT by roses of sharon
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: roses of sharon

No...remember Miss Nancy said we had to pass the bill before we could see whats in it.


2 posted on 07/27/2010 2:22:49 PM PDT by BubbaJunebug (s)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BubbaJunebug

Well, she was right about one thing...people will/have gotten used to it, and no longer care.

Just look at the lack of participation on this thread..

And where are the Republicans in office? Why aren’t they running like gangbusters on repealing this monstrosity called Obamacare?


3 posted on 07/27/2010 2:40:10 PM PDT by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: roses of sharon

Was CLASS part of Obamacare?


4 posted on 07/27/2010 2:58:32 PM PDT by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Sirat: Through the Fires of Hell" - on amazon.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: tbw2

Yes.

CLASS is a new long-term-care insurance program that was inserted into Obamacare so that Congress could raid its $70 billion surplus through 2020 to cover Obamacare’s initial deficits. Like the raided Social Security trust fund, future taxpayers will have to repay that $70 billion with interest when the program falls into deficit later.


5 posted on 07/27/2010 3:02:15 PM PDT by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: tbw2

http://www.heritage.org/Research/Reports/2010/07/The-CLASS-Act-Repeal-Now-or-Face-Permanent-Taxpayer-Bailout-Later

A good link to the report’s numbers.


6 posted on 07/27/2010 3:09:09 PM PDT by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; blueyon; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; ...
The Community Living Assistance Services and Supports (CLASS) Act is a new long-term care insurance program... Congress inserted it into the Obamacare health law... could cost future taxpayers trillions of dollars... the Congressional Budget Office, the chief actuary for the Medicare program, and the American Academy of Actuaries have all acknowledged that CLASS is unsustainable. In fact, Senate Budget Committee Chairman Kent Conrad, North Dakota Democrat, calls CLASS "a Ponzi scheme of the first order, the kind of thing that Bernie Madoff would have been proud of."

7 posted on 07/27/2010 3:21:47 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: roses of sharon
and America takes another one in the........
rlmorel

8 posted on 07/27/2010 3:31:32 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: roses of sharon
And where are the Republicans in office? Why aren’t they running like gangbusters on repealing this monstrosity called Obamacare?

The repubies are only upset that they couldn't get away with passing something similar.

Stand up and face the wall. Start screaming, pleading, and stating your case against the legislation. Feel better? The result is the same, only you didn't have to waste 2 minutes reading a form letter thanking you for your concern.

9 posted on 07/27/2010 3:37:32 PM PDT by Repeat Offender (The buck, it seems, never gets to Obama; a surprise considering how many they print)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Repeat Offender

OK, so when I said the same during the healthcare debate, most here said shut up! It will not pass...or Republicans will repeal it! I said no they will not...when this passes we are finished. Again I was told to shut up! You are a downer! You have given up on the fight!

Now I ask...where are all those Rs who Freepers claimed will repeal?

We are always told to relax..wait for the next elections..the newly elected Conservatives will save us.

Well, I say balderdash...the ballot box can no longer save us.

What is left to do but to sack DC?


10 posted on 07/27/2010 4:00:26 PM PDT by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: roses of sharon

The last time Social(ist) Security was reformed, the rates were raised enough that today if Congress hadn’t raided the funds, we would have had a $2T surplus.

You can never trust a politician


11 posted on 07/27/2010 4:12:43 PM PDT by griswold3 ('Regulation and law without enforcement is no law at all)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: roses of sharon
"Just look at the lack of participation on this thread."

For the same reason the same FReepers assume that the "bailout of Wall Street" (conservatives should stop using this oommie-propaganda term) was a bailout of fat-cats. It is lost on most Americans, including conservatives, that Wall Street is owned by Main Street --- by hundreds of millions of Americans, especially retirees, widows and orphans.

Most Americans no longer know, or care to learn in detail, how their country works.

12 posted on 07/27/2010 5:29:09 PM PDT by TopQuark
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: roses of sharon
"We are always told to relax..wait for the next elections..the newly elected Conservatives will save us."

I completely agree with you: this no longer works. And we need not look to the future. It was the Republican Governor Pawlenty who (in)famously proclaimed, "The era of small government is over." That is why the most conservative nominee we could last produce was Mac Cain. The sad truth is, most Republicans would not vote for a more conservative candidate.

Similarly to the 1930s Germany, our country has turned left. We now have a choice between two socialist: Social Democrats (R) and neo-communists/fascists (D).

13 posted on 07/27/2010 5:33:51 PM PDT by TopQuark
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: TopQuark

The game is over, but we have to win the revolution when the inevitable collapse happens. No election will fix this. It’s over. We must win at any cost.


14 posted on 07/27/2010 5:52:25 PM PDT by Gapplega
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: roses of sharon

Such defeatism in this thread!

Obama is out there now trying to improve his sinking poll numbers. He has lost a lot of liberal supporters! We are starting to WIN the war for the minds.

Now is not the time for defeat and despair and “Whoa-is-us-we’ve-lost-our-country.” We are WINNING.


15 posted on 07/27/2010 6:04:46 PM PDT by PastorBooks
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: TopQuark; Gapplega

I agree...we must begin to think seriously about some form of resistance.


16 posted on 07/27/2010 6:31:49 PM PDT by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: PastorBooks

I could have typed that a few years ago PastorBrooks!

No more.

And in a few months or years, you will face it too...it is hard and sad, and comes with many tears..but it is true.

Americans are gone, I would guess there are only about 20% of us left, which is why we must do what we can soon, for our numbers will dwindle with each passing year.

Slowly we will become wards of State, SS, Obamacare and government employment out of shear survival.


17 posted on 07/27/2010 6:41:08 PM PDT by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: roses of sharon
What a pleasure it is to read your posts, RoS. A rare pleasure. Thank you.
18 posted on 07/27/2010 6:48:22 PM PDT by TopQuark
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: roses of sharon

The good news (if there is any) is that the govt is bankrupt. They simply cannot implement these marxist plans with 14 trillion in debt. No one is going to buy treasury bonds to fund the USSA. Things will collapse, and then a new republic based on that “old and tired Constitution” will emerge. Hopefully.

I would be MUCH more concerned if there was no federal debt. It limits what these freaks from chicago can do.


19 posted on 07/27/2010 6:48:42 PM PDT by Gapplega
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: TopQuark

>> that Wall Street is owned by Main Street

Wall Street is fueled by Main Street, but is not owned by it. They give us the opportunity to give them money through financial instruments that they control, so they can use that capital to make huge gains while keeping our returns small over the long term. The mutual fund was a brilliant move by them to allow us to think we have some skin in the game, without giving us a vote. Creating the 401k/IRA/etc was even more brilliant because it locks our capital in for their use for most of our lifespan.


20 posted on 07/27/2010 6:50:40 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Obama is like a rocket scientist....who's trying to do brain surgery with a hammer.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-22 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson