Posted on 07/28/2010 9:21:29 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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Now a new survey by a national firm, Public Policy Polling, shows the measure winning -- and comfortably so.
Public Policy Polling has Prop 19 up by 52 to 36 percent.
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(Excerpt) Read more at fresnobee.com ...
http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/07/two-fifths-of-californians-have-tried.html
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/MarijuanaPoll.pdf
After they legalize their “medicinal” pot, I wonder which drug they’ll be legalizing next. “Medicinal opium”? “Medicinal” Meth? “Medicinal Heroin”? Cocaine?
I am against legalizing pot. I maintain it will create far more problems than it will solve.
But. Having said that. I do hope the land of fruits and nuts passes this law. To serve as an example to normal America that legalizing marijuana is foolish.
Then I will say; “I told you so!” as California slides into a complete and total pit of moral and fiscal destruction.
I a far reach from pot to meth and heroin.
Equating them shows you either have an agenda or are ignorant of the facts.
Wait, I thought they already did. Is this a new proposition to challenge that?
One benefit of a state with legalized pot is there will be a lot of “stoners” getting high on election day instead of going to the polls to vote.
It’s a prop to allow the sale of pot and TAXATION of sales. Better report those transactions!
You mean the old provision had no tax. How could California be so stupid? Everyone who wanted the ban on pot removed, also wanted the tax.
Trying to gin up fear of what a GOP administration might do in the fedguv? Probably their best approach would be a pot amnesty for the Obama years.
I would guess the natural stuff. So, yeah. Opium and Heroin come from the same plant. Cocaine comes from a different plant. Meth is a chemical, similar to the prescription amphetimines they give kids like Ritalin.
If they passed Prop 19 for the opium plant and the coca plant, the results would be interesting. Legal to possess opium legal in small amounts, legal to possess the coca leaf in small amounts. Legal to grow the opium plant and the coca plant in small amounts. Legal to keep the product of your grow around your house.
But don’t make the manufactured product legal, just the natural product. So, opium would be legal, but not codeine, heroin or morphine. Coca leaf would be legal but not cocaine.
Let the locality decide about the sales of coca leaf and opium.
What would happen? Wouldn’t have much immediate effect on possession. Opium is rare and coca leaf is even more rare.
Minimal effect on the supply of coke and heroin. Coca plants don’t grow well outside of South America. It takes
a lot of coca plants to make cocaine. It takes a lot of opium plants to make heroin. And a lot of advanced knowledge. People would not be using their grow plots for plants designed to be converted into harder drugs.
There would be an interesting treatment of addiction here - “medical” opium or “medical” coca. Instead of methodone, give heroin addicts opium, or just let them grow it. Coke addicts could be given coca leaves.
On the negative side, there is the possibility that legalizing these physically addictive substances could lead to addiction, and a graduating up to the more potent form. If it ever is considered, that is certainly a real factor.
On the n
Naw, there will be designated drivers. Of buses covered with old style psychedelic graphics, of course.
This isn’t medical marijuana where you need a doctors note or something. This legalizes it. If it passes, and if a locality decides to allow sales, people from all over the country and all over the world even will some to California and spend a lot of money.
Basically, it’ll be treated like alcohol.
There is no taxation on pot you grow yourself.
And don’t you pay a sales tax on everything you buy?
I don’t think it’s over the top. Not at all. The drug business is like anything else. It’s agenda driven. Meaning the escalation of meth, cocaine and other harder drugs are naturally to follow.
Take sexual perversion as an example. We decriminalized rape, incest, gay sex, even sex abuse with a minor. We voted in gay marriages, elected queers to Congress. Even gonna make one a SC justice.
And we ain’t seen nothing yet.
It’s a slippery slope. Frog in a pot of water.
So no. It’s not a far reach from pot to meth and heroin.
It’s just around the corner.
Oh. And don’t forget. These sick-o groups are after our children.
Cocaine has always been legal for medicinal use.
Morphine and codeine is a result of separation of opium; heroin a result of transformation of morphine.
As a quasi libertarian on the issue, I do not partake of any current street drug myself and would be unlikely to under looser regulations, but would like to see the issue medicalized (in a non-Bummercare, private system) along with other drugs that the FDA deems too risky to mainstream like the new female Flibbertygibbet or whatever it was called. If certain physicians establish a bond or insurance bloc such that they can be financially responsible for any permanent ill effect of the drug, then those physicians can prescribe anything but suicide medications and pharmacies can lawfully provide it.
Prop 19 allows localities to tax marijuana if they choose to allow sales.
But it allows everyone over 21 to grow 25 sq ft of marijuana completely legally. No tax, no doctors note, no checking in with government. Just legal.
I suspect we'll never agree.
I know only that I will resist with all of my abilities those who would tell me what I can or cannot do as long as I hurt nobody but myself.
And, please, spare me about how "the rest of society will have to fix me or take care of me" etc.
I don't want any help or interference of any kind.
This CA proposition is a good one and it will pass. And it'll take large bucks out of the prohibition industry...on BOTH sides of the law.
It’s for parents to purge the baleful influences out of the schools, and if they can’t to home school or get the laws changed. One needn’t go as far as “Jack’s mommy snorts coke.” We have “Heather has two mommies” to deal with.
I personally would support a Prop 19 for all plants.
I would support what you suggest, or something similar, for cocaine or heroin.
I’m not sure about cocaine or heroin being sold in convenience stores.
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