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Phoenix police to Houston officers: Immigration law has reduced crime
KHOU News/11News ^ | Aug. 10, 2010 | Alex Sanz

Posted on 08/10/2010 2:59:24 PM PDT by AuntB

HOUSTON – Would an immigration reform law like Arizona’s work in Texas? That was the topic of discussion Thursday when some HPD officers met with police officials from Phoenix.

Mark Spencer, president of the police union in Phoenix, where officers are already allowed to call immigration officials, said crime has dropped.

"It’s not based upon race. It’s based upon conduct," Spencer said. "The clear connection between those statistics is the crime of illegal immigration. We needed to be proactive [and use] common sense."

"We’ve got to secure our borders. We’ve got to do what is necessary to make sure that the safety and security of the citizens of Texas is well-established," State Rep. Debbie Riddle (R-Tomball) said.

Opponents of such a law are already gearing up for a fight.

"We don’t believe that any collaboration with immigration and police should take place, because police are already overwhelmed with the criminals," Cesar Espinosa of Houston’s America For All said.

But would an Arizona-style law make Houston’s streets safer?

Houston’s police union is studying the numbers.

"If you look at the drastic reductions in homicides and auto theft crimes that occurred in Phoenix, I mean, we’d be stupid not to look into those things," Gary Blankinship of the Houston Police Officers’ Union said.

There were plenty of believers at the meeting Thursday, but it was just the first of many conversations on immigration reform ahead of the state’s next legislative session.

(Excerpt) Read more at khou.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; arizona; enforcementworks; illegalaliens; immigration; itsworking; standwitharizona; texas
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"If you look at the drastic reductions in homicides and auto theft crimes that occurred in Phoenix, I mean, we’d be stupid not to look into those things," Gary Blankinship of the Houston Police Officers’ Union said."

1 posted on 08/10/2010 2:59:29 PM PDT by AuntB
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To: AuntB

Hey, it’s only homicides and auto thefts AuntB.

That’s not as important as Obama looking like the best friend of Foreign nationals, even if it does make him the worst enemy of U. S. Citizens.

Which is the biggest demographic? LOL< Obama hasn’t a clue...


2 posted on 08/10/2010 3:05:19 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's not Rs vs Ds you dimwits. It's Cs vs Ls. Cut the crap & lets build for success, not failure.)
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To: AuntB

The comments are pretty interesting, too. The guy who is running for governor against Rick Perry is pretty much open borders.


3 posted on 08/10/2010 3:05:24 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: AuntB
It’s not based upon race

Mexican isn't a race. It's a nationality.

As is Guatemalan, Salvadorean, Costa Rican, Nicarauguan...etc.

The cops need to stop apologizing and just do it. The titanic crime wave that is illegal immigration has turned the Southwest into a uncivil battleground. It needs to END.

4 posted on 08/10/2010 3:06:43 PM PDT by Regulator (Watch Out!! The Americans are On the March!! America Forever, Mexico Never!)
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To: Clintonfatigued; Liz; sickoflibs; DoughtyOne; PGalt; mkjessup; blackie; SwinneySwitch; HiJinx; ...

Another interesting item by way of NAFBPO:

BLM info on illgegal immigration - since 2003 $6,252,500 to clean up the land after illegals

Initiated in 2003, the SAP cuts across legal and administrative boundaries. Between FY 2003 and FY 2005, the SAP was funded through BLM supplemental appropriations approved by Congress. Since FY 2006, the BLM has funded the SAP through base annual appropriations for resource protection. In FY 2009 program funding totaled approximately $1.14 million dollars. Program funding totals $6,252,500 since FY 2003. Yearly amounts are as follows: FY 2003 - $695,000; FY 2004 - $790,000; FY 2005 - $986,000; FY 2006 - $971,000; FY 2007 - $962,000; FY 2008 - $711,000 and FY 2009 - $1,137,500.

http://www.blm.gov/az/st/en/info/newsroom/undocumented_aliens.html

FY 2009 Summary Report

FY 2009 Fact Sheet

FY 2008 Summary Report (including Map and Photo Highlights) (1M)

FY 2007 Summary Report (including Map and Photo Highlights) (1M)

FY 2006 - Southern Arizona Project to Mitigate Environmental Damages Resulting from Illegal Immigration

Summary of Accomplishments - FY 2003 - FY 2005 (pdf, 836 K)

FY 2005 - Southern Arizona Project to Mitigate Environmental Damages Resulting from Illegal Immigration

FY 2004 - Southern Arizona Project to Address Public Land Degradation as a Result of Illegal Immigration

FY 2003 - Southeast Arizona 2003 Project to Mitigate Environmental Degradation Caused by Illegal Immigrants End-of-Year Report

FY 2002 - Report to the House of Representatives Committee on Appropriations on Impacts Caused by Undocumented Aliens Crossing Federal Lands in Southeast Arizona


5 posted on 08/10/2010 3:07:58 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: AuntB

Would an immigration reform law like Arizona’s work in Texas? That was the topic of discussion Thursday when some HPD officers met with police officials from Phoenix.”

Minutes of the meeting:

HPD: Would it work?
PPD: Heck yeah.
HPD: Let’s get some chow.


6 posted on 08/10/2010 3:08:41 PM PDT by jessduntno (I wonder...how will third Manassas turn out?)
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To: DoughtyOne; All

More....

This is the line that got me....
“Makes you wonder, what are we doing wrong? How is he getting back in here?” said Kirby Aumick. “

DUH!!! Because the border is WIDE OPEN, contrary to what Janet Nappin’attheAlamo says.

Investigators: Edmonds rape suspect deported nine times
http://www.king5.com/news/local/Investigators-Edmonds-rape-suspect-deported-nine-times-94637479.html#

EDMONDS, Wash. – The KING 5 Investigators have learned that an illegal immigrant accused of raping a woman in Edmonds Sunday has been deported nine times. That’s much more than previously reported.

Immigrations and Customs Enforcement won’t comment on the case of Jose Lopez Madrigal. But KING 5 got the information through confidential sources and documents.

Larry Klein was the man who heard the alleged victim’s cries for help. Police say the suspect pulled the woman off the street to a dumpster and raped her.

“I could see the back of his head. I could see his pants were down. I could see her lying on the ground. I could hear her crying, but I couldn’t really see her face,” said Klein.

Klein called police, who quickly arrested the suspect. But learning his identity took much longer because of some 30 aliases. It was only through fingerprints that they identified him as Madrigal, a Mexican citizen.

Madrigal’s arrest and immigration record includes a staggering number of contacts with law enforcement since 1989. That’s the year he was convicted of theft using a firearm in California.

He was deported a couple of times after that. Then in 1999, he was arrested for drug sales in both San Diego and San Francisco. Records show that he was deported three times that year between April and August.

He was arrested for drugs again in Stockton, Calif. in 2000. In 2002, he pleaded to third degree sexual assault in Denver. Later that year, he was deported again. And in 2003, records show he was deported three more times.

People who live near the scene of Sunday’s alleged rape wonder how it could keep happening.

“Makes you wonder, what are we doing wrong? How is he getting back in here?” said Kirby Aumick.

“It’s troubling. I mean, if this man should not have been in this country, he should have been behind bars then, really, this is a senseless tragedy,” said Klein.

According to our sources, Madrigal’s last contact before Sunday was around 2003. So, it’s not clear how much of that time Madrigal was in this country.

Immigration and Customs Enforcement has refused to comment on the case which started making national headlines when it was learned that Madrigal had been deported several times prior to the Edmonds case.

In reviewing records and talking with confidential sources, the KING 5 Investigators learned just how extensive Madrigal’s immigration and arrest record is.

They found he was first deported in California in 1989 and since then he’s returned from his Mexican homeland and been arrested for drug crimes, a sex assault in Colorado and other offenses.

One criminal justice source says Madrigal is a “poster boy” for the federal governments ineffectiveness at keeping the most serious “criminal aliens” – illegals who commit crimes – out of the United States.


7 posted on 08/10/2010 3:11:31 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: AuntB

Nice. But just the tip of the iceberg.


8 posted on 08/10/2010 3:14:50 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: AuntB

Here it is fellow citizens. This is what the people of our nation have to put up with day after day, year after year, decade after decade.

Is this the nation you wish to pass off to your children?


9 posted on 08/10/2010 3:18:09 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's not Rs vs Ds you dimwits. It's Cs vs Ls. Cut the crap & lets build for success, not failure.)
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To: jessduntno; All

Latest NAFBPO M3 foreign news report....it’s STILL ALL our fault!!!

OVER THE WEEKEND: CONCERNS OF POTENTIAL TERRORIST THREATS VIA MEXICO; U.S. BLAMED FOR INCREASE IN VIOLENCE

http://m3report.wordpress.com/2010/08/08/over-the-weekend-concerns-of-potential-terrorist-threats-via-mexico-u-s-blamed-for-increase-in-violence/


10 posted on 08/10/2010 3:26:36 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: DoughtyOne; AuntB

” Here it is fellow citizens. This is what the people of our nation have to put up with day after day, year after year, decade after decade. “

I wonder how many illegal immigrants live in DubyaThat is like 6 million in Los Angeles.’s new neighorhood? He paid 3 million for the house.


11 posted on 08/10/2010 3:41:46 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (.Go troops! " Vote out RINOS. They screw you EVERY time" Jim Robinson)
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To: DoughtyOne; AuntB

” Here it is fellow citizens. This is what the people of our nation have to put up with day after day, year after year, decade after decade. “

I wonder how many illegal immigrants live in DubyaThat is like 6 million in Los Angeles.’s new neighorhood? He paid 3 million for the house.


12 posted on 08/10/2010 3:42:21 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (.Go troops! " Vote out RINOS. They screw you EVERY time" Jim Robinson)
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To: DoughtyOne; AuntB

” Here it is fellow citizens. This is what the people of our nation have to put up with day after day, year after year, decade after decade. “

I wonder how many illegal immigrants live in DubyaThat is like 6 million in Los Angeles.’s new neighorhood? He paid 3 million for the house.


13 posted on 08/10/2010 3:42:23 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (.Go troops! " Vote out RINOS. They screw you EVERY time" Jim Robinson)
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To: DoughtyOne; AuntB

” Here it is fellow citizens. This is what the people of our nation have to put up with day after day, year after year, decade after decade. “

I wonder how many illegal immigrants live in DubyaThat is like 6 million in Los Angeles.’s new neighorhood? He paid 3 million for the house.


14 posted on 08/10/2010 3:42:26 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (.Go troops! " Vote out RINOS. They screw you EVERY time" Jim Robinson)
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To: DoughtyOne; AuntB

Don’t ask me what happened....I have no clue ;-)


15 posted on 08/10/2010 3:45:01 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (.Go troops! " Vote out RINOS. They screw you EVERY time" Jim Robinson)
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To: AuntB

” “If you look at the drastic reductions in homicides and auto theft crimes that occurred in Phoenix, I mean, we’d be stupid not to look into those things,” Gary Blankinship of the Houston Police Officers’ Union said.”

Let’s see if they have the guts to do anything.


16 posted on 08/10/2010 3:48:52 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (.Go troops! " Vote out RINOS. They screw you EVERY time" Jim Robinson)
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To: AuntB
""We don’t believe that any collaboration with immigration and police should take place, because police are already overwhelmed with the criminals," Cesar Espinosa of Houston’s America For All said."

Duh!!! Guess who the criminals ARE?!

17 posted on 08/10/2010 4:06:44 PM PDT by ironwill (III - Molon Labe)
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To: AuntB

U.S. BLAMED FOR INCREASE IN VIOLENCE

What, you mean they aren’t blaming BUSH?


18 posted on 08/10/2010 4:10:32 PM PDT by jessduntno (I wonder...how will third Manassas turn out?)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Oh sure...

Oh sure...

Oh sure...

Oh sure...

Oh sure...


19 posted on 08/10/2010 4:13:50 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's not Rs vs Ds you dimwits. It's Cs vs Ls. Cut the crap & lets build for success, not failure.)
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To: La Lydia

The only thing that will happen in Texas is that the borders will be more open - if that’s possible. The former Chief of Police of Houston was from Phoenix and with the assistance of Bill White as Mayor did much to facilitate the expansion of Houston as a sanctuary city. White’s claim to fame: Syncronizing the stop lights downtown to facilitate the movement of traffic and allowing half of NOLA to establish free residence following Katrina!! With Sheila Jackson Lee in the mix with her host of followers all quite comfortable in Section 8 housing, on food stamps and SSI and you can understand why the city is getting shabby, infrastructure is in need of major repairs and there are very few safe areas. Lee Brown - a crony of Clinton - was also previous Chief of Police and was able to establish his credentials as Czar of the Drug World, particularly within the Black community. Houston’s huge school district is now at least 45% Hispanic. Don’t even want to know how much money is wasted on administrators salaries and benefits. Glad I live in the suburbs now.


20 posted on 08/10/2010 4:57:40 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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