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To: ronnyquest

that is a Homo-con

Government is in the recording inheritance and property rights business.

No government in marriage then you can never inherit anything since lineage can never be legally established via legitimacy.

We used to have a non-government system. it was full of fraud and abandonment. Who needs divorce and childsupport payments, just leave and abandon and you have no fear of consequence.

Government out of marriage is the goal of the left and a specific goal of the homosexuals.


29 posted on 08/19/2010 6:40:00 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory

Marriage out of human society is the real goal of the left and their ideological “father”.


32 posted on 08/19/2010 6:41:16 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: longtermmemmory
Government is in the recording inheritance and property rights business.

And why are they in this business in the first place? Whose interest is served in "inheritance" rights?

No government in marriage then you can never inherit anything since lineage can never be legally established via legitimacy.

If each individual where allowed to disposs of his/her property as they deemed proper (and not adversly affecting the public good) - the government would need only be involved insomuch as contract law is needed.

We used to have a non-government system. it was full of fraud and abandonment. Who needs divorce and child support payments, just leave and abandon and you have no fear of consequence.

In the case of child support, it is easily establishable whether a particular person is the mother/father of a child. In the case of divorce - if the government need be involved, it should be based on a contract which both parties agree to - not some nebulous set of ever changing rules. Furthermore - this would be and argument FOR homosexual unions!

Government out of marriage is the goal of the left and a specific goal of the homosexuals.

More like a goal of people interested in LIMITED government ...

39 posted on 08/19/2010 6:51:03 AM PDT by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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To: longtermmemmory
Government is in the recording inheritance and property rights business.

None of which has anything specifically to do with marriage. You can make a will and leave your stuff to your spouse, or somebody else, or your cat, or whatever. The government's only role is to register the documentation, adjudicate disputes (Is it genuine? What does this clause mean exactly?), and enforce the results.

44 posted on 08/19/2010 6:59:10 AM PDT by TrueRightWing
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To: longtermmemmory
No government in marriage then you can never inherit anything since lineage can never be legally established via legitimacy.

It doesn't effect inheritance. I'm not married. I can leave my estate to my girlfriend if I want to. I can leave it to anybody. All it takes is a will. Intestate inheritance is archaic and rarely used anymore.

We used to have a non-government system. it was full of fraud and abandonment. Who needs divorce and childsupport payments, just leave and abandon and you have no fear of consequence.

Abandonment occurs today (not to mention murder to avoid payments). So do bitter divorces that some people never recover from. Some people don't get legally married because of the divorce system.

I'm Catholic. When I get married, it'll be in the church, in front of God and family. That's something I'll be taking very seriously. Government out of marriage is the goal of the left and a specific goal of the homosexuals.

Homos wants government in marriage. It's about governmental sanction and more importantly, money. They want their gay lovers to get all the benefits, including social security, etc.

49 posted on 08/19/2010 7:06:30 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (I don't look for leaders. I follow my own path, my way.)
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To: longtermmemmory

“Government out of marriage is the goal of the left and a specific goal of the homosexuals”

The homosexualists certainly love that gov’t is involved, otherwise there would be no weapon or punishment to use against regular folks who know that “gay marriage” is an impossibility. The homosexualists love that the state has conditioned many folks to think that marriage is defined and derived from the gubberment.

Freegards


60 posted on 08/19/2010 7:16:15 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: longtermmemmory

“Government is in the recording inheritance and property rights business.

No government in marriage then you can never inherit anything since lineage can never be legally established via legitimacy.”

That’s nonsensical. Probate and contracts courts could handle all of that just fine and probably with no staff changes at all.


64 posted on 08/19/2010 7:19:23 AM PDT by johnnycap
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To: longtermmemmory
"Government out of marriage is the goal of the left and a specific goal of the homosexuals."

Hardly, since they are using the government's involvement to legitimize their claims. They want government involved to ensure their claims are honored as legal.

When government can define through the force of law what marriage (or any sacred institution) is, that institution has lost its sanctity. Even captains at sea still use bibles to perform marriage and funeral services.

92 posted on 08/19/2010 7:44:54 AM PDT by ronnyquest (There's a communist living in the White House! Now, what are you going to do about it?)
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To: longtermmemmory

Exactly. I am copying that for future reference. Marriage has always been recognized in some legal fashion throughout history.

I will use it with your name!


127 posted on 08/19/2010 9:04:52 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: longtermmemmory

I agree with you.


147 posted on 08/19/2010 9:42:00 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: longtermmemmory

THANK YOU — everyone of FR needs to read this — it’s the core of the ematter of why the gov’t can’t get out of the marriage business.


232 posted on 08/19/2010 11:16:15 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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