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Orrin Hatch Backs 'Ground Zero Mosque,' Breaks With GOP Colleagues
Politics Daily ^ | August 31, 2010 | David Gibson

Posted on 08/31/2010 3:35:31 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued

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To: Perdogg
I always find it strange that when the Mormons were driven out of the Midwest and went to Utah it was fine to practice their beliefs of multiple wife's but when it wanted to become a state they said you had to change your beliefs what happened to religious freedom?
21 posted on 08/31/2010 3:48:38 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to GOD! Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Orrin Hatch long since sold out whatever conservative impulses he had, if any. He was Ted Kennedy's favorite "Ree-publican" butt boy, and probably a lot more besides. Do not be surprised to find that this beltway mutation is nothing like the Utahns he "represents." He belongs in the Senate Hall of Shame with Dingy Harry Reid, Tom Thumb D'Asshole, and Snarlin' Arlen Sphincter.
22 posted on 08/31/2010 3:48:52 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Clintonfatigued
The property rights thing is a different issue than whether building it is the proper thing to do.

Thomas Sowell says it well:

The Mosque Controversy

23 posted on 08/31/2010 3:50:01 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: Clintonfatigued

That hatch ought to be closed permanently.


24 posted on 08/31/2010 3:50:01 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: Clintonfatigued
""I'd be the first to stand up for their rights," said Hatch,"

Yes, Senator, as I'm sure you'd stand up for the free speech rights of the so-called Westboro Baptist Church, but perhaps you should exercise YOUR right to tell them they are idiotic, stupid, insulting and infantile, not to mention malicious.

25 posted on 08/31/2010 3:50:38 PM PDT by cookcounty ("I can see November from my house!" ---Sarah Palin)
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To: Snickering Hound
Good. That gives the Utah Tea Partiers time to gear up and give this hemorrhoid the Bennett treatment.
26 posted on 08/31/2010 3:50:58 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Clintonfatigued

I never liked this guy. Never trusted him. Now I see why.


27 posted on 08/31/2010 3:51:57 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012 (Proud Infidel)
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To: Perdogg

Just like Obama.


28 posted on 08/31/2010 3:52:57 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012 (Proud Infidel)
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To: Clintonfatigued

29 posted on 08/31/2010 3:53:39 PM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Hatch joined the elite "we know what's best for you" club years ago.

I used to think that only Arlen Specter was less dependable for a conservative vote.

Looks like Hatch is trying to catch up.

I don't think the tea party people will favor him in the next primary election.

30 posted on 08/31/2010 3:55:43 PM PDT by capt. norm (Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.)
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To: Clintonfatigued; All

Dear Uncle Orin

JUST SAY NO!!!!

For the UNknowing, the UNaware and the wary,

When the founding fathers thought of America, their little baby, the last thing they wanted was an invasive force to stifle, smother it, and then overwhelm it and kill it.

Most people do not recognize that what happens in a mosque is sedition. Pure and simple. Islam is not just a “religion”, it is a cult. Larger than that though, it is a political system, it is it’s own government, a economic system (which includes funding new mosque construction), its judicial...all wrapped up in the word sharia. This is inclusive of its military (jihadis) all rolled into one with one intent ...and that is to rule wherever they take root. It is a invasive, systemic infection looking to take over the host once it has quantum.

This is not just a “religion”, but something that cloaks itself in those terms so it should not be given the same treatment contemplated under the first amendment. The Korans Sharia rules are to consume whatever government there is wherever it goes.
Islam is political, and it’s goal is to supplant and replace. Globally.

When the founding fathers thought of America, their little baby, the last thing they wanted was an invasive force to stifle, smother it, and then overwhelm it and kill it.

The sooner America learns this , the better. Some know and many do not, but it is a threat to everything America knows.

Obama? Obama and Company? Should be tried for treason in this issue for promoting the establishment of a foreign government on our soils. He is doing nothing to protect America as per his oath. Also, as a Muslim, he knows this, he know far better, he knows sharia, but is looking to deceive America.

For all interested...Wanna learn more?
On Sharia
http://thehayride.com/2010/08/louisiana-at-leading-edge-in-fight-against-shariah/#more-5392

On sharia global finance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7iHxl90CD0&feature=related

On sharia global Economy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qbb5s8hALVE&feature=related

this,
Three things about Islam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib9rofXQl6w&feature=player_embedded

and a little Bill Whittle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg_iDPRud_c

Maybe we should talk about the birth of Pakistan?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IstZSgniH8

Lets keep America, America!

And if you like conspiracies lets look at the White House and its circle...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Jhx_2TqffE
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJzU056ccV4&NR=1

After viewing the two, reconcile our observations.

Obama? Obama and Company? Should be tried for treason in this issue for promoting the establishment of a foreign government on our soils. As a Muslim, he knows this, he knows sharia, but is looking to deceive America.

Sharia is contrary to America, its rights , freedoms , liberty and democracy.


31 posted on 08/31/2010 3:56:37 PM PDT by himno hero
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To: Clintonfatigued

AAARGH!!!!!

Muslims and Latter-day Saints Mormon (OPEN)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2568726/posts


32 posted on 08/31/2010 3:58:05 PM PDT by colorcountry ("The power of facts is much greater than the power of argument.")
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To: Clintonfatigued

It isn’t about their right to build it it’s about their disrespect in building it there.


33 posted on 08/31/2010 3:58:05 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

The “ruling class” on display.


34 posted on 08/31/2010 3:59:06 PM PDT by swamprebel ("gather your armies.")
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To: Clintonfatigued
I've never seen such a "strange" list. If you look at who's for it and against it ... the list doesn't form any pattern ... east/west Republican/Democrat Red/Blue ... it's getting more amazing as names are added. I'm not trying to put "everybody" I see on it, but I've got the majors ... see 'Da List at The Patriot's Flag. Maybe you can see a pattern, it's actually kind of fascinating. (mouse over has the "proof" summary)
35 posted on 08/31/2010 4:00:01 PM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (If you aren't at Obama's Table, you are probably on the MENU! - The Patriot's Flag)
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To: ilovesarah2012
No, the difference is I have consistent record in supporting property rights. Look at my tagline. (btw I have been a supporter of Palin before McCain picked her). In order for conservative principles to survive we have to apply them to situations we may not always agree with. Liberals try to have both ways, we cannot.
36 posted on 08/31/2010 4:00:36 PM PDT by Perdogg (Nancy Pelosi did more damage to America on 03/21 than Al Qaeda did on 09/11)
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To: himno hero

Orrin Hatch— Utah RINO. Or, as it has been said, “Never count your Hatch before he chickens...” A perfect example of what is wrong with the GOP Senate contingent. They may as well change parties.


37 posted on 08/31/2010 4:05:22 PM PDT by Czar (NRA Life Member)
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To: Clintonfatigued

This is not about their rights; you jackass, Hatch.


38 posted on 08/31/2010 4:08:09 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Clintonfatigued

>> Hatch: “So, if the Muslims own that property, that private property, and they want to build a mosque there, they should have the right to do so.”

“should” in the subjective sense.

Of course, no such “right” to build the mosque exists.


39 posted on 08/31/2010 4:10:08 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Hey Orin, seen these?

These are a MUST SEE.

Three Things About Islam

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib9rofXQl6w&feature=player_embedded

Of Mosques and Men: Reflections on the Ground Zero Mosque

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxFzFIDbKpg


40 posted on 08/31/2010 4:14:46 PM PDT by COUNTrecount (Barry...above his poi grade.)
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