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Border mission 'not unique' for Guardsmen
National Guard Bureau/by way of NAFBPO ^ | Sept. 3, 2010 | By Lt. Col. Ellen Krenke

Posted on 09/04/2010 1:44:57 PM PDT by AuntB

Arlington, Va., (9/3/10) -- Almost 1,100 National Guard members are on duty on the Southwest border performing a mission that is very familiar to many of them, a Guard official said today.

"This (mission) is not really unique," said Jack Harrison, the director of communications for the National Guard Bureau. "The National Guard has been involved at the Southwest border for two decades."

During that time, National Guard members have worked in the counterdrug program in California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas. "Above and beyond the 1,200 authorized for this mission, there are over 350 counterdrug personnel (in these states) doing that mission," Harrison said.

Almost 6,000 Guard members from around the country were deployed in support of Operation Jump Start, a two-year mission that ended in 2008.

"So, this is not new," Harrison said.

Many of the Guard members, who have volunteered for the current border mission, also have overseas deployment experience. "And yes, those experiences are certainly useful for this mission," Harrison said. "It is also why DHS requested the National Guard's support on the border ... they recognize that level of experience."

Harrison said the Guard will act as "extra eyes and ears" for Customs and Border Protection and Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents during the one-year mission. They will provide entry identification and criminal analysis support to these agencies.

Neither mission requires direct law enforcement activates, Harrison said. "They will be armed, but that will be more for self-protection than anything else."

Of the 1,100 on duty, there are about 975 Army Guard members and 100 Air Guard members.

Harrison said these Guard members volunteered for this mission and were not called up as part of a unit.

Each state is using volunteers from within the state. "There are no units or individuals from outside those four states being called in to help in those four states," Harrison said.

The incremental deployment of Guard members began on July 1, and the one-year mission includes training time, "boots on the ground" time and the ramp down at the end of the mission.

The training can take from two to three weeks and focuses on the agencies' tactics and procedures as well as any equipment that may be used during the mission.

Harrison said this is a federally funded mission, but it is not federally commanded. "The governor and the adjutant general in each of these four states maintain command and control over each person on duty," he said. "They control the flow of the forces and the numbers of forces on duty ... and they will maintain that level of control throughout the mission."

He added that the total funding authorized for this mission for up to 1,200 Guardsmen for up to one year is $135 million.

The states cannot activate more than 1,200, but they could use fewer, Harrison said adding, "that would be up to each state."

Of the almost 1,100 currently on duty, there are about 300 in California, 450 in Arizona, 90 in New Mexico and 225 in Texas.

"We take this mission very seriously," Harrison said. "The president has asked us to support this mission, while CBP and ICE hire new agents. Everything is going as we expected it to go, and we are on track for up to 1,200 people."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; borders; guard; illegalaliens; immigration; mexico; military; nationalguard; smokeandmirrors; terrorism; wheresthefence
"Harrison said these Guard members volunteered for this mission and were not called up as part of a unit."

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Border Patrol agents observe an Arizona National Guard Soldier training for Operation Copper Cactus at an undisclosed location in Arizona on Aug. 25, 2010. Operation Copper Condor is the Arizona National Guard's contribution to the up to 1,200 National Guard troops being deployed to support the Border Patrol and Immigration and Customs Enforcement in the four Southwest border states. (U.S. Army photo by Staff Sgt. Jim Greenhill)

1 posted on 09/04/2010 1:45:02 PM PDT by AuntB
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To: AuntB
"Harrison said this is a federally funded mission, but it is not federally commanded. "The governor and the adjutant general in each of these four states maintain command and control over each person on duty," he said. "They control the flow of the forces and the numbers of forces on duty ... and they will maintain that level of control throughout the mission." "

So, Bammy sent these 1200 folks to help the beleaguered 20,000 BP folks (US controlled) already there, but lets the local Governors do the commanding?

2 posted on 09/04/2010 1:48:48 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: SwinneySwitch; bcsco; Man50D; onyx; c-b 1; Jake from AZ; DoughtyOne; SandRat; HiJinx; ...

Some good news today!

States file brief supporting Ariz. immigration law
© 2010 The Associated Press
Sept. 4, 2010, 10:06AM

PHOENIX — Nearly a dozen states have filed a legal brief in support of Arizona’s controversial immigration law.

A”friend of the court” brief filed with the San Francisco-based 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals on Friday argues that a federal judge was wrong to block implementation of key provisions of the law.

The brief submitted by Michigan Attorney General Michael Cox argues that the judge used the wrong legal standard to rule on the U.S. Justice Department’s request for a preliminary injunction.

It also says the judge erred in ruling that the law interferes with the executive branch’s immigration enforcement priorities.

Alabama, Florida, Idaho, Louisiana, Nebraska, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, South Dakota, Texas and Virginia joined in the filing.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/tx/7186521.html


3 posted on 09/04/2010 1:48:59 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: AuntB

Goo9d!


4 posted on 09/04/2010 2:12:42 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (((.Go troops! " Vote out RINOS. They screw you EVERY time" Jim Robinson)
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To: AuntB

Just a question:

If the National Guard troops were used in a Law enforcement capacity, Since they would be Deployed against Invaders and NOT US citizens, Would that be considered a violation of Posse Comitatus?

Can anyone present some valid arguments for or against.


5 posted on 09/04/2010 2:24:57 PM PDT by SwedeBoy2
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“Just a question:

If the National Guard troops were used in a Law enforcement capacity, Since they would be Deployed against Invaders and NOT US citizens, Would that be considered a violation of Posse Comitatus?

Can anyone present some valid arguments for or against.”

They absolutely can and have been used to protect our borders. There is NO valid constitutional argument against it.


6 posted on 09/04/2010 2:29:35 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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“They absolutely can and have been used to protect our borders. There is NO valid constitutional argument against it.”

That was my opinion as well.

The part about Rules of engagement is what got me.

You see the Bad Guy, He’s armed So call it in and run away.


7 posted on 09/04/2010 2:36:14 PM PDT by SwedeBoy2
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Posse commitatus applies to federal military. That is why these Guardsmen will remain under the command of state authority.

Technically, this allows them to use policing powers, but it doesn’t matter. Their actual duties will be as waterboys for the Border Patrol, fixing vehicles, grading and clearing roads, and monitoring surveillance equipment. They will do no enforcement.

It is all a PR fiasco. It is a waste of time and money and takes these Guardsmen aware from their wartime training requirements. It also provides a paycheck for volunteering “Guard bums”, which if you know the Guard, is not necessarily a pejorative.


8 posted on 09/04/2010 2:59:12 PM PDT by oldbill
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