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First I heard that they had rejected the ban... too close to the election, I guess.
1 posted on 09/08/2010 2:31:52 AM PDT by djf
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if the epa and the greenieweenies want to get all that lead back from those bullets... all they need to do is outlaw them.
2 posted on 09/08/2010 2:37:13 AM PDT by mmercier (the greater scheme)
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Previously...

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2578413/posts

EPA Now Accepting Public Comment on Petition to Ban Lead in Ammunition and Fishing Tackle
CNS NEWS.com ^ | August 26, 2010 | Susan Jones
Posted on August 27, 2010 3:01:43 AM PDT by Cindy

“EPA Now Accepting Public Comment on Petition to Ban Lead in Ammunition and Fishing Tackle” Thursday, August 26, 2010 By Susan Jones, Senior Editor

SNIPPET: “(CNSNews.com) – Environmental activists are pressing the Obama administration to ban the manufacture, processing and distribution lead shot, bullets, and fishing sinkers under the Toxic Substances Control Act of 1976, but hunting and Second Amendment groups say the EPA lacks the authority to do so, for starters.”

SNIPPET: “The public comment period opened on Aug. 25 and ends on October 31. The EPA must decide whether to accept or reject the petition by November 1, 2010, the day before the midterm election.”

(Excerpt) Read more at cnsnews.com ...

1 posted on August 27, 2010 3:01:49 AM PDT by Cindy
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ON THE INTERNET:

www.regulations.gov/search/Regs/home.html#docketDetail?R=EPA-HQ-OPPT-2010-0681

www.regulations.gov/search/Regs/home.html#submitComment?R=0900006480b3974b

3 posted on August 27, 2010 3:05:47 AM PDT by Cindy
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3 posted on 09/08/2010 2:39:17 AM PDT by Cindy
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a petition filed by environmental activists seeking to ban lead in ammunition

Liberals in action--try to get ammo banned so people's right to guns is curtailed, and try to do it through "environmental" concerns.

Just like how the mosque is a "legal" issue, and gay marriage and illegal immigration are about civil rights.

When libs whine about how people don't trust government, or call liberal bad names, I think of this kind of thing. They don't play openly, and they try to go around the rules they expect everyone else to follow to the letter.

4 posted on 09/08/2010 2:39:24 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Forget it, Jake. It's Chinatown. -- written by Robert Towne)
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First I heard that they had rejected the ban... too close to the election, I guess.

Exactly! While the Enviro-Nuts and Fascist Leftists in the EPA might be dumb, they are not stooopid and no doubt head Mooncalf, Lisa Jackson, no doubt got a call by Dear Leader's Chicago-Thug adviser, "Rhambo" Emanuel "suggesting" they put this on hold, but like all Demo-Rat proposals/agendas (similar to the Night of the Living Dead) look for this to be implemented later this year or next!

What I'd like to see examined and discussed (as it is an area I'm not that familiar with) is how it came to be that Bureaucracies have been given such power and authority and can issue "Diktats" such as this absent any oversight or even any recourse by Congress to halt or reverse such actions.

5 posted on 09/08/2010 2:49:25 AM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet ((One of ONLY 37 Conservatives in the People's Republic of Vermont. Socialists and Progressives All))
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A few years ago, Congressman Dennis Kucinich(D), mentioned the lead sinkers lost by fishermen in Lake Erie posed a threat..

Other then the local talking heads on TV, the suggestion withered on the vine.

6 posted on 09/08/2010 2:53:05 AM PDT by Las Vegas Dave (To anger a Conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a Liberal, tell him the truth.)
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Things are going to be relatively quiet between now and November...after November, expect the Obama administration to move as much liberalism as they can out of the voting booth and into the bureaucracy through decisions like this. The gun banners will be back - if not with the EPA, then with someone else. They’ve realized that there’s no need to ban guns if you can ban ammunition and the second amendment doesn’t say a thing about bullets.


7 posted on 09/08/2010 3:25:46 AM PDT by Yet_Again
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*** First I heard that they had rejected the ban... too close to the election, I guess. ***

No not the election. Glenn Beck's 8-28 rally. There was a thread on this but it was on a Friday and everyone was gearing up for Saturday 8-28. And on 8-028 Glenn's Rally had all the bandwidth.

Btw, the EPA dropped this like a hot potato after getting one phone call. It was from that 'do nothing', 'traitorous', 'compromising', 'Harry Reid backing', NRA. Public comment was *supposed* to go to Oct. The EPA shut it down after one day.

NOTE: That was the NRA. Not GOA, SAF or any other org. It was the NRA who 'made them an offer they couldn't refuse'.

9 posted on 09/08/2010 4:05:31 AM PDT by Condor51 (SAT CONG!)
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The EPA can’t ban lead in ammo.
The law that established their authority, specifically exempted their jurisdiction over hunting and fishing uses for lead. Not that any liberal or socialist would let laws get in their way.


12 posted on 09/08/2010 4:35:13 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Obama, why stupid people shouldn't vote!)
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I love the premise that the EPA gets to decide what authority it has, that it is not clear. Congress delegated it’s constitutional role for passing new laws to the EPA. Ha!

People don’t even question the idea.

So from here on out, here is what will happen:

Environmental groups will sue. A federal judge appointed in part due to his or her sympathy to the idea that we should be ruled by experts will decide against the EPA. The EPA will say that “We were forced to act”. The president is then able to point the finger at the courts and congress gets off scot free for having to take responsibility for the laws it passed. Any changes to the law have to pass the Senate, a veto of the President and a Constitutionality check with the courts.

It’s an illusion of a Republic. The elites get the country they want and we’ve lost ours.


14 posted on 09/08/2010 4:44:57 AM PDT by MontaniSemperLiberi
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This is going the same route as CO2. A little bit down the road it will end up before SCOTUS and I foresee the same outcome.
15 posted on 09/08/2010 4:49:26 AM PDT by Roccus (......and then there were none.)
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The Environmental Protection Agency has denied a petition filed by environmental activists seeking to ban lead in ammunition, saying such regulation is beyond the agency's authority.

When did that ever stop the bambi administration?

They're only waiting to see if the GOP takes over the House because they know they'll have to answer for it.

16 posted on 09/08/2010 4:50:31 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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Yeah, they must fear gun owners backlash enough to back off.

Otherwise there’s no way they’d veiw something as beyond their jurisdiction.

Heck, if CO2 is on the table...


18 posted on 09/08/2010 5:22:09 AM PDT by Pessimist
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The story inside the story is that we are controlled by a bunch of extralegal agencies that can outlaw a metal at their whim.


21 posted on 09/08/2010 5:44:10 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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