Posted on 09/28/2010 9:16:57 AM PDT by RobinMasters
Disagreement arose today among supporters of Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin, the Army doctor facing military court-martial for refusing orders to deploy to Afghanistan after questioning Barack Obama's constitutional eligibility to be president.
A group of retired military officers organized as the Veterans Council and the United States Patriot Union in Sheridan, Wyo., issued a white paper calling on Lakin's legal defense team to change strategy.
The so-called "White Paper No. 3" urged tea-party members and Congress members who signed the "Pledge to America" to support Lakin's right to discovery at his court-martial. The officers want Lakin to obtain Obama's long-form birth certificate and other relevant birth documents from Hawaii's Department of Health, as well as college and law-school records, to determine whether the president applied as a foreign-exchange student.
On Sept. 2, Army Col. Denise R. Lind ruled in a preliminary hearing to Lakin's scheduled October court-martial that Lakin could not pursue Obama's presidential eligibility as part of his legal defense.
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Isn't the THE WHOLE BASIS OF HIS ACTIONS?
Reminds me of past gun rights cases in which the judge orders the defense not to mention the Constitution or the BOR/2nd Amendment.
Good luck with that. Reports suggest that Obama has spent over a million dollars to prevent revealing said documents. Yet, one has to ask: Unless you have something to hide, why spend the money? It's also interesting that the birth certificate that was posted on the web when all of this started was not posted by Obama. Rather, it was posted by his campaign organization. I doubt this is coincidence, as it leaves an opening for Obama to claim he never submitted falsified documents. This guy's a slimy as a bad cold.
I think the real BC would tell us everything we need to know. I think Obama saw his BC and discovered that everything he was told about his origins was a lie.
Given the judge has already ruled, I don’t see what part public pressure would play. Seems more like someone is trying for free publicity.
Also, this statement:
“Lind ruled it was the responsibility of Congress to impeach a sitting president, noting the discovery evidence Lakin sought to obtain could be an “embarrassment” to the White House.”
Actually, she ruled that a court should not try to embarrass other branches of government by taking roles assigned to the other branch - in this case, Congress. See page 9 of her ruling:
You might want to review her opinion before saying she is ignoring the Constitution. See the link posted above.
I would think that the last thing we want is for Congress to stick their nose into the military justice system.
Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin Ping
Good luck with that. Reports suggest that Obama has spent over a million dollars to prevent revealing said documents. Yet, one has to ask: Unless you have something to hide, why spend the money? It’s also interesting that the birth certificate that was posted on the web when all of this started was not posted by Obama. Rather, it was posted by his campaign organization. I doubt this is coincidence, as it leaves an opening for Obama to claim he never submitted falsified documents. This guy’s a slimy as a bad cold.
Under Hawaii statutes, a birth record can be released (and I quote the law) to: “A person whose right to inspect or obtain a certified copy of the record is established by an order of a court of competent jurisdiction;” Hawaii Revised Statutes 338-18(b)(9).
What has frightened off many people from seeking a subpoena are the statements of government officials in Hawaii who have verified Obama’s birth in that state including the Republican Governor of Hawaii, Linda Lingle. Folks have a hard time figuring out why a Republican Governor would back Barack Obama on the eligibility issue.
I remember that statement - very strange. It seems by that caveat, that the judge is predisposed to believe the administration is lying about the eligibility of obam. After all, the only cause of an embarrassment could be an instance of dishonesty on the part of the administration.
Judge to Lt Col Lakin:
- NO YOU CAN'T HAVE DISCOVERY - CONGRESS is responsible for verifying NBC status.
- Contact a Congressman and what do they tell you:
The courts will not hear any cases because of lack of standing we can't do anything.
Bring your case before a court of law:
You have NO STANDING!
NO ONE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR VERIFYING NATURAL BORN STATUS!!
- Contact a Congressman and what do they tell you:
The courts will not hear any cases because of lack of standing we can't do anything.
Bring your case before a court of law:
You have NO STANDING!
NO ONE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR VERIFYING NATURAL BORN STATUS!!
Thanks for good post and summary of information. II understand what you are saying.
However, I thought that the Political Party was responsible for nomination and running candidates who are eligible. In this case the CommieCrates are the responsible party. They have not done so. The paper work signed by the HI CommieCrate party putting forth The Usurper lacked any words about Constitution eligibility, which they have done previously. It would seem that votes and/or other candidates have standing to sue CommieCrate Party for failing to put forward a valid candidate.
Anyone have any details as to today’s hearing? Time, etc?
What hearing?
This is the first time I've seen a statement by an elected official in connection with the veracity of the President's claim to be a "Naturalized Citizen" of the USA. But people want more than the bottom line that Obama was born in Hawaii.
There are too many discrepancies like which hospital even by Obama. Is his father different from his namesake? How does he qualify to be a Natural Born citizen when his father was not a citizen of the USA and his mother was under age? There are a host of unanswered questions relating to his eligibility for his office. Why were there hearings to question the eligibility of McCain and not Obama? McCain's eligibility was a no-brainer. There is something unsettling and not right about this situation.
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CHARGE I, VIOLATION OF THE UCMJ. ARTICLE 87The Specification:
In that Lieutenant Colonel Terrence L. Lakin, US Army, did, at or near Arlington, Virginia, on or about 12 April 2010, through design, miss the movement of US Airways Flight Number 1123, departing from Baltimore/Washington International Airport arriving in Charlotte, North Carolina, in order to deploy for a Temporary Change of Station in support of Operation Enduring Freedom with the 32nd Calvary Regiment, 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault), Fort Campbell, Kentucky, with which he was required in the course of duty to move.CHARGE II, VIOLATION OF THE UCMJ . ARTICLE 92
Specification 1:
In that Lieutenant Colonel Terrence L. Lakin, US Army, having knowledge of a lawful order issued by Lieutenant Colonel William Judd, to report to the office of his Brigade Commander, Colonel Gordon R. Roberts, at 1345 hours, or words to that effect, an order which it was his duty to obey, did, at or near Arlington, Virginia, on or about 31 March 2010, fail to obey the same by wrongfully not reporting as directed.Specification 2:
In that Lieutenant Colonel Terrence L. Lakin, US Army, having knowledge of a lawful order issued by Colonel Gordon R. Roberts, to wit: a memorandum signed by the said Colonel Gordon R. Roberts, dated 31 March 2010, an order which it was his duty to obey, did, at or near Arlington, Virginia, on or about 31 March 2010, fail to obey the same by wrongfully not reporting as directed.Specification 3:
In that Lieutenant Colonel Terrence L. Lakin, US Army, having knowledge of a lawful order issued by Colonel Peter M. McHugh, to wit: Temporary Change of Station orders 099-17, dated 9 April 2010, issued by Colonel Peter McHugh, requiring the said Lieutenant Colonel Terrence L. Lakin to report to Fort Campbell, Kentucky not later than 1500 hours on 12 April 2010, an order which it was his duty to obey, did at or near Washington, District of Columbia, on or about 12 April 2010, fail to obey the same by wrongfully failing to report to 32nd Calvary Regiment, 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault), Fort Campbell, Kentucky.Specification 4:
In that Lieutenant Colonel Terrence L. Lakin, US Army, who knew or should have known of his duties at or near Washington, District of Columbia, on or about 12 April 2010, was derelict in the performance of those duties in that he willfully failed to report to Fort Campbell, Kentucky in accordance with Temporary Change of Station orders 099-17, dated 9 April 2010, issued by Colonel Peter McHugh, in support of Operation Enduring Freedom, as it was his duty to do."
I had heard on an interview they did after the last hearing that the 28th was the next action date, but I can find no details other than the above statement.
Lakin will be found guilty and dealt with accordingly. The real tragedy is that this sort of sacrificial lamb approach is protecting a bastard who is not eligible, but not one high on the totem pole officer will step in to take the torch and get this resolved, so this sort of break in legitimacy will continue to hang in the air as a real possibility with any future CiC and possible illicit orders.
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