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Mortgage holders will have banks by the short hairs ( + QE/ Deceptive CPI Numbers/ Fake Earnings)
http://www.nypost.com ^ | 10/13/2010 | John Crudele

Posted on 10/16/2010 9:43:14 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45

If you think there is chaos in the housing market now, just wait.

...Retirees tomorrow will officially get the bad news: no cost of living adjustment from Social Security again this year.

...THIS YEARS CONSUMER`S PRICES ARE BEING COMPARED WITH `08s.

...Even as the Fed is rumored to be thisclose to flooding the economy with more money, it suddenly did something called a "re verse repo."

... JPMorgan Chase managed to produce excellent earnings through accounting trickery

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cpi; credit; economy; homeloans; housing; mortgages; realestate; socialsecurity
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So, the manipulation of the CPI is the reason the CPI only went up " 0.2% " for September !?
1 posted on 10/16/2010 9:43:17 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: Para-Ord.45

Pretty much.


2 posted on 10/16/2010 9:47:29 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 634 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Just another far-left reporter espousing free houses for ‘deat beats’.


3 posted on 10/16/2010 9:48:18 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Crudele is more of a right-wing head-for-the-hills sort of reporter. He has been predicting the entire collapse of everything for decades. Every once in a while, something does collapse, and all these guys say ‘See, I told you so!’


4 posted on 10/16/2010 9:59:12 AM PDT by proxy_user
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To: proxy_user

As things are now ‘heading for the hills’ is sounding better and better.


5 posted on 10/16/2010 10:01:36 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Para-Ord.45

Not manipulation in the immediate sense.

The formula for the CPI has been “refined” several times since Carter was in office. Each time lowering the results.

For example, using the CPI formula that was the official one when Carter was in office, the current inflation rate would be in the neighborhood of 13%.

The government’s cure for inflation since the 70s has been to make it officially invisible. If we say it isn’t there, doesn’t exist.

The most corrupt private corporation out there doesn’t come close to the lying corruption of the federal government.


6 posted on 10/16/2010 10:02:33 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s
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To: Para-Ord.45

Hmm, I am not sure what this means, “Instead of adding money like QE2 would, a reverse repo takes money out of the banking system and the economy.”

Not sure how this was done, but if he is correct, is the FED trying to cause a lack of liquidity? Can you say 2008?

Am I missing something?


7 posted on 10/16/2010 10:03:46 AM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: TruthConquers

NY Fed Conducts 1st Reverse Repo Test With Expanded Counterparties

http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20101013-710562.html


8 posted on 10/16/2010 10:06:45 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: proxy_user
He has been predicting the entire collapse of everything for decades.

So have I. I argued with professors in college in the early 70s about SS, entitlements and debt growth.

Simple math shows the inevitable. What has been impossible to predict is when. I expected it before now, but have been surprised by the continuing ingenuity of government and financial markets in devising new accounting tricks to mask reality. It is certain that we are much, much closer now than just a coupe of years ago.

9 posted on 10/16/2010 10:08:55 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s
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To: Para-Ord.45

My daughter was explaining a little accounting trick companies use to lower losses.

Change the fiscal year. Suppose it is Sept to Oct, then you change it to Jan to Dec. Nov & Dec of that first year of change just sort of fall off the radar. They become zero months in the accounting reporting.

Lo and behold, 12 months of losses miraculously becomes 10 months of losses.


10 posted on 10/16/2010 10:17:45 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ( If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

I knew it back in the 70’s too. But, since I was just a “housewife”, I had no creds with family and friends.

I thought the collapse would come much earlier too. I couldn’t understand how it could go on... but then, I never thought people could be so easily fooled, and so dishonest.

The demise of our values, our character, and our economy is a sad thing to witness.


11 posted on 10/16/2010 10:24:35 AM PDT by jacquej
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To: Kartographer

The Middle Class is getting ready to join the deadbeats to demand the paperwork. My mortgage is close to being paid down and I could write a check to pay it all off. This situation is so screwed up that I could write a check on Monday to pay it off but the title could be clouded.

I am getting to the point of wanting to jam it down the throat of the bank.

Blame idiots who watch TV because ALL (including Fox/Saudia) of TV supports Obama, the left and Islam. Stupid sheep want bread and circuses and all this s**t to happen because ball games and other inane crap is more important.


12 posted on 10/16/2010 10:28:59 AM PDT by Frantzie (Imam Ob*m* & Democrats support the VICTORY MOSQUE & TV supports Imam)
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To: jacquej

Perception is reality. Up to now that perception has been it can’t happen.

I think that the ability of the “system” to maintain this perception is breaking down. Some of that may be due to changes in mass communication and flow of information.

IMO, in accounting math, we collapsed some time ago. Our financial system is like a zombie still walking around because it doesn’t know it is dead.


13 posted on 10/16/2010 10:35:39 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ( If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: ChildOfThe60s
For example, using the CPI formula that was the official one when Carter was in office, the current inflation rate would be in the neighborhood of 13%.

I've heard this, and find it plausible, but haven't seen solid proof of it. Do you have any?

14 posted on 10/16/2010 10:39:04 AM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order)
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To: Para-Ord.45
Lesson in terminology:

The mortgagor is (typically) the homeowner who gives a mortgage to secure funds with which to purchase the home (in most instances, although in some instances it could be a cash out re-fi, etc.)

The mortgagee is the (lending institution/bank) who advances funds in return for the mortgage. So they get the mortgage, and you could say they hold the mortgage as the underlying debt is being repaid.

In other words the (lending institution/bank) accepts or holds the mortgage until the underlying note or loan agreement is completed and then issues a satisfaction of the mortgage, which is typically recorded.

So, to sum it up, this headline was written by someone with no knowledge of the subject matter of the story. It is indistinguishable from a headline which read: "Banks will have banks by the short hairs". They might have said "Borrowers will have banks by the short hairs" or "Mortgagor's will have the banks by he short hairs", but this headline is just plain stupid.

15 posted on 10/16/2010 11:12:50 AM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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If Obama plan for socialism took a long way around but ended up with the results he wanted would he not have won?.


16 posted on 10/16/2010 11:14:00 AM PDT by Vaduz
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“Just another far-left reporter espousing free houses for ‘deat beats’.”

25 million illegals deliberately allowed to flood into middle and lower income neighborhoods driving up the cost of housing and living.

50,000 Illegal Alien Gangsters, 500,000 Gangsters at minimum spending their days destroying.

Average American buys a home to live in.. to raise their kids in. They do not live forever as a Corporation and the time to raise their children is finite.

So they they buy in the “affordable “ neighborhood. One day on his way home Joe Sixpack stops at the corner 7-11. The local pimp offers to “hook him up”with some “Fresh Meat”. He ignores the offer and manages not to shoot the SOB making it.. (knowing of course the local police will arrest him in a heartbeat should he do the right think and kill the human sack of dung.)

He heads home only to find his wife's lifeless body tied
to the bed raped to death.. His 12 year old daughter missing. His son? don't worry he was Murdered 4 years ago on his way home one evening after refusing to join the local gang.

You can blame average Americans for this disaster all you want.. But it is a lie and we know it.

401k Plans used to prop up the month to month operating expenses of Corporations while their CEOs and Board Members looted the Company's value..

Home values gutted by corrupt business practices...

The Dollar “Floated” so that insiders could buy a $100k option (never even paying that money) then making millions when the dollar predictably lost 40% of it's value against the EURO..

Your 401K investment managers got in on that right? No? Big surprise.

The organized and deliberate theft of labor and savings of three generations of Americans..

And you blame average Americans..

Just another Corporate America apologist trying to misdirect attention from Price Fixing and RICO Violations by Banksters, Mortgage Brokerage CEOs and Officers as they ran off with millions in bonuse?.

Just another apologist for a corrupt elite.. Elected, Appointed and Corporate, Republi-Con and Demon-Crat alike who knowingly and willingly conspired to steal America's wealth, wreck America's middle class and Destroy the American Dream?

Just asking.... W

17 posted on 10/16/2010 12:17:03 PM PDT by WLR (Remember 911 Remember 91 Iran delinda est.)
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So, the manipulation of the CPI is the reason the CPI only went up “ 0.2% “ for September !?”

Meanwhile, NObama is giving FEDERAL employees a 1.4 % increase in their salaries!!!


18 posted on 10/16/2010 12:54:58 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Change the fiscal year. Suppose it is Sept to Oct, then you change it to Jan to Dec. Nov & Dec of that first year of change just sort of fall off the radar. They become zero months in the accounting reporting.”

Last I knew, once you choose an accounting year, you cannot change it.

There used to be many more ‘fiscal year’ accounting periods.
I was told by a CPA I work with that only calendar year accounting periods are now allowed for new companies.


19 posted on 10/16/2010 12:57:18 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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So, the manipulation of the CPI is the reason the CPI only went up " 0.2% " for September !?

Yup!

The website below lists several biases understating inflation that have been built into the CPI since the early 1990’s under Bush/Greenspan, Clinton/Greenspan.

Originally the CPI was designed to measure the cost of a fixed basket of goods, i.e. comparing apple to apples. In the early 1990’s the ‘substitution effect’ was introduced. For example if the price of steak went up ‘too much’ the price of hamburger was substituted. The CPI morphed from the cost of maintaining a certain standard of living to the cost of maintaining a declining standard of living.

Straight arithmetic weighting of the CPI components was shifted to a geometric weighting. Lower weighting is given to CPI components that are rising in price, and a higher weighting to those items dropping in price.

Hedonics was introduced. This is my personal favorite. Hedonics adjusts the prices of goods for the increased pleasure the consumer derives from modifications to those goods, e.g. if you pay more for gas because of federally mandated additives, the additional cost does not count toward the CPI because of your increased pleasure in breathing ‘cleaner air’; if the cheapest new micro wave costs more than the older cheapest new micro wave, but has additional functionality, the additional cost is not added to the CPI.

Intervention analysis tones down severe upswings, e.g. again on gas, based on the assumption that what goes up will go down.


20 posted on 10/16/2010 1:00:56 PM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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