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Regardless of your opinion of marijuana legalization, if this passes -- and it looks like it will -- this could be one of those few times (along with the water issue) Liberal California will have a real State's Rights vs Federal Government fight. And more people across the State personally care about marijuana legalization than they do about water to the San Joaquin Valley. "Obama vs California" will be a real trip!
1 posted on 10/16/2010 6:50:43 PM PDT by Bokababe
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State’s Rights Ping!


2 posted on 10/16/2010 6:51:40 PM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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And for that reason alone, I will be voting for it. I was going to vote against it or leave it alone, but when Holder opened his commie mouth, that was it.


3 posted on 10/16/2010 6:53:51 PM PDT by HerrBlucher (Defund, repeal, investigate, impeach, convict, jail, celebrate.)
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"Obama vs California" will be a real trip!

Lol. "A real trip!" That's a good one.

4 posted on 10/16/2010 6:54:18 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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I don’t agree with the new law, but I don’t agree with the feds even more. It appears that I - as a science geek - appear to understand the constitution more than the complete idiot septic tank dwellers in DC.

It’s time for a revolution, folks.

I won’t ask, or tell - if you just say no.


5 posted on 10/16/2010 6:54:33 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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I guess the Feds are looking for a piece of tax pie in the event 19 passes—right now revenue only goes to the state right? Can’t have that so it will be legal when they tell you it will be legal


6 posted on 10/16/2010 7:00:59 PM PDT by funfan
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If marijuana is legalized here and the Feds ignore the State Law & continue to prosecute, every Democrat in the State will be in the hot seat as to what side they are on -- Obama's or California's?

Marijuana legalization is a very big pile of doodoo for the Democrats and they just don't know it yet!

8 posted on 10/16/2010 7:05:52 PM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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Agreed that it should be a state's rights issue.

That said I'm totally opposed to the legalization of drugs.

On another board someone posted...(excerpted)

I have yet to see/hear of anyone dying from smoking marijuana

It isn't what they do to themselves, it's what they do to innocents.

Witnesses told Officer Smakosz they saw Mr. Cope hit Ms. Styles, 36, and then back over her again. The officer arrived to find Ms. Styles bleeding profusely and her children screaming but unharmed.

Toxicology results revealed Mr. Cope had marijuana in his system at the time of the crash. Officers said they smelled the odor of the drug in his vehicle.

The doper later admitted to smoking (and using other drugs but it had to be the "other drugs" right?).

DUIs? Same thing. Let's compound the problem by letting dopers get their fix and kill people like Lisa Clay Styles.

10 posted on 10/16/2010 7:07:38 PM PDT by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts are holding The Constitution together as the Loose Screws of The Left come undone!)
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Unfortunately, the battle was already fought and lost. The US Supreme Court has already ruled the federal government can enforce its laws against marijuana regardless of state law. I think Clarence Thomas has it right (he argued that medical marijuana had nothing to do with interstate commerce).


11 posted on 10/16/2010 7:08:23 PM PDT by CitizenUSA
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Is this a ploy to get all mj users to vote D
whether they be Republican or whatever.


15 posted on 10/16/2010 7:28:42 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (demonicRATS= Obama's Mosque, taxes, painful death. Is this what you want?)
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Boxer and Brown must be really pissed!


17 posted on 10/16/2010 7:36:01 PM PDT by depressed in 06 (The only thing the ZerO administration is competent at is bad ideas.)
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I doubt the nimber of people using marijuana will change much, whether legal or illegal.

It has been illegal for decades, yet many have used it.

The penalty has been greatly relaxed in several states, without reports of increased use.


19 posted on 10/16/2010 7:40:47 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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I don’t have a problem with drug laws as long as they are products of the state. I don’t believe that the constitution grants the Feds authority to regulate narcotics (or much of anything else) as the commerce clause meant to simply normalize trade within the Union so states could no longer form trade cartels and have trade wars with each other.

For those who aren’t aware, the Cruikshank case (along with the slauterhouse cases) started the ball rolling toward weaking the original meaning of the commerce clause. The Grant administration had attempted to use martial law and other forms of Federal law to prosecute violators of the civil rights laws. These laws were struck down in Cruikshank. In the decision, it was suggested that the government should use the commerce clause to get what it wanted rather than the criminal code. Meanwhile, Cruikshank, who killed at least 27 negros in cold blood went free.


23 posted on 10/16/2010 7:46:53 PM PDT by dajeeps
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This is a state’s rights issue. If the people of California want to legalize marijuana, or cocaine for that matter, it should be their right to do so. States should be able to do stupid things as well as smart ones. This will be in the former category.

It’ll be interesting to see if California makes an interstate commerce issue of it when mj is legalized.


25 posted on 10/16/2010 7:51:32 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Amateurs study tactics, professionals study logistics, and victors study demographics.)
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"Obama vs California" will be a real trip!

I find this real ironic considering how the Kenyan sued AZ for enforcing his FED LAWS.
41 posted on 10/16/2010 9:55:13 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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Curious: a state with such a crusade against tobacco smoking is set to allow the smoking of marijuana — something that’s 10-20 times more potent than tobacco? California is a funny place.


42 posted on 10/16/2010 10:01:32 PM PDT by alancarp (Please don't tell Obama what comes after "trillion")
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in California, possession of pot,
is no longer a crime


43 posted on 10/16/2010 10:20:43 PM PDT by Talf
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It won’t pass. Not yet, anyway...


44 posted on 10/17/2010 1:21:17 AM PDT by freebilly (No wonder the left has a boner for Obama. There's CIALIS in soCIALISt....)
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They already lost this fight in 2005, Gonzalez vs Raich.

Justice Thomas got that one right:

Respondents Diane Monson and Angel Raich use marijuana that has never been bought or sold, that has never crossed state lines, and that has had no demonstrable effect on the national market for marijuana. If Congress can regulate this under the Commerce Clause, then it can regulate virtually anything--and the Federal Government is no longer one of limited and enumerated powers.... If the majority is to be taken seriously, the Federal Government may now regulate quilting bees, clothes drives, and potluck suppers throughout the 50 States. This makes a mockery of Madison's assurance to the people of New York that the "powers delegated" to the Federal Government are "few and defined," while those of the States are "numerous and indefinite." The Federalist No. 45, at 313 (J. Madison).
46 posted on 10/17/2010 1:49:54 AM PDT by publiusF27
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Any bets the public smoking ban will be lifted next?,it’s why it came into play in the first place.


47 posted on 10/17/2010 4:18:30 AM PDT by Vaduz
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I do not support legalization of marijuana, but I would like to see the same energy and resources applied to secure our southern border.


50 posted on 10/17/2010 5:38:24 AM PDT by thethirddegree
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