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Sean Bielat and Barney Frank livestreamed at (Today 4PM EST)
YouTube ^ | Oct 21, 2010 | BielatforCongress

Posted on 10/21/2010 10:41:51 AM PDT by Sparky1776

This debate with be livestreamed at

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: barneyfrank; massachusetts; seanbielat

1 posted on 10/21/2010 10:41:53 AM PDT by Sparky1776
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Massachusetts Ping!


Debate Live Thread - Live via the Internet - Thx Al Gore!

2 posted on 10/21/2010 10:43:27 AM PDT by Sparky1776
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3 posted on 10/21/2010 11:22:38 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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Sean Bielat just dissed Sarah and that hurts him with me.....I’m not voting in Mass, so it doesn’t matter, Sarah is our leader and I personally expect respect for her from “wanna be’s” that she is endorsing.....

A simple “I’m happy to have her endorsement, but I haven’t spoken to her directly” would have been more appropriate...

I listened as long as I could, but barwney makes me think he and al franken are in congress.....

Sean is young and I hope he beats barney for sure...we’ll see

4 posted on 10/21/2010 1:40:41 PM PDT by The Wizard (Madam President is my President now and in the future)
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Hi Wizard, if an election was held today between Sarah and Obama I would vote for Sarah in a heartbeat BUT I don’t consider her my leader. I’m not about to write a blank check to anyone right now - I think it is very important that the primaries are played out, methinks Sarah mostly will win those if she does decide to run.

I do think she is overstepping if she is endorsing candidates without their blessing, I personally believe candidates have a right to run their campaigns without outside influences. Whether you like it or not she doesn’t play well in eastern Mass, yet my guess is would play well in western Mass.

5 posted on 10/21/2010 3:48:55 PM PDT by Sparky1776
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Spot on oppo research. Some of the links have gone dead (notably at his current employer Wells Fargo mortgage where his photo was posted - surprise), but you can verify Herb Moses photo by logging on to LinkedIn and searching on that name - his page will come up (
with a photo if you are logged in, and it is in fact the very same unmistakable face of Herb Moses in the graphic gay porn that one can find on the internet.

This was posted in a 2008 FR thread that was recently pulled, and it can lead you to make the connection between the unmistakable face of Frank’s Fannie Mae ex-spouse and the same un-photoshopped man as a raunchy gay porn star: “You are definitely on the right track since I know that Herb lives in Huntington Beach with his lover of 10 years Alvaro C. and he does (maybe did) work at WF in mortgage lending. They have both been and still are part-time male prostitutes and have also done gay porn. Real Couples #1 was their first video together. This can be verified as Jessie Foxx (Alvaro) and Mike (Herb) on the DVD cover and posting on pay VOD sites. Sometimes the light of truth uncovers a questionable past.”

Discover the link - it seems that Frank’s former Fannie Mae “spouse” went on to star in harcore gay porn:

Barney Frank’s former so-called “spouse” was a man named Herb Moses.

At the time, Herb Moses was a director for housing initiatives at Fannie Mae.

Herb Moses helped develop many of Fannie Mae’s affordable housing and home improvement lending programs.

Herb Moses was reportedly a mortgage expert who left Fannie Mae in 1998 to start a pottery business.

But not before his lover Barney Frank lobbied hard to widen Fannie Mae’s ability to give mortgages to high-risk borrowers.

A “Herbert M. Moses” from Washington D.C. and employed by Fannie Mae gave $1500 to Democrats in the 1990s.

A “Herbert M. Moses” in D.C. is listed at

At this whitepages page, you will find a “background records” link that allows you to buy a detailed report on that name from a list of several links.

Several of those links will give a teaser list of cities where the named person presumedly has lived or lives.

Fact check: you can type in the name of someone you know and see that the list of teaser cities is an actual list of the actual cities where the named person has lived.

For “Herbert M. Moses” of D.C., Huntington Beach, CA, is one of 6 cities listed as a current or former residence.

Newport Beach is 6 miles from Huntington Beach,+ca&daddr=Huntington+Beach,+CA&hl=en&geocode=&mra=ls&sll=33.829785,-117.27787&sspn=1.204664,2.460938&ie=UTF8&z=13

A google search of “Herbert Moses”

brings you to a photo and contact page of “Herb Moses” working at Wells Fargo in the mortgage department

and Herb Moses of Wells Fargo mortgage is also listed at this website

A brand new FReeper, Stevie1958, has posted an interesting note at FR claiming that this same pictured Herb Moses has made porn films with his current long-term gay sex partner.

A google search using key terms revealed by this new FReeper, Stevie1958, does lead to webpages with photos of the same pictured man (identified above as Herb Moses) engaged in explicit homosexual sex acts.

So, it seems that Barney Frank’s former homosexual “spouse” who was a Fannie Mae executive, is now a third rate loan salesman and gay pron star. It makes Frank’s old housemate, Steve Gobie, who Frank met when he hired him as a male escort, and who ran a gay “escort” service from Frank’s D.C. home, seem pretty tame in comparison (Representative Barney Frank received a formal reprimand from the House for his relationship with a male prostitute - Gobie).

And one more thing: Is Stevie1958 really Stephen L. Gobie?

6 posted on 10/21/2010 5:54:59 PM PDT by Notwithstanding
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