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To: GonzoII

IMHO this is pure crap. Homosexuality is not a chosen lifestyle. It is genetic. There is really a very simple question to ask: Who would choose to be homosexual if they were not?

Also, I recall a story years back where a woman gave birth to a boy. During circumcision the doctor “alleges” he slipped with the knife and castrated the boy. The parents subsequently raised the child as a girl. Upon reaching adulthood this person reverted to heterosexual male. This wasn’t some obscure story in an obscure report. It was reported nationally. Probably can Google it if one is patient enough to find the right combination of words.

Non-homosexual children of homosexual parents may be more open to sexual experimentation than heteros, but in the end they will always return to their natural gender.

I’m not homosexual nor are any of my children. But it really bothers me when self-described Christians actually become hateful toward homosexuals. Shame on you. They are God’s children, too.

Of course, I’m outraged as you are, at the depravity that is put on public display at Gay Pride parades. But the reality is that this very visible, vocal and disgusting group does not represent the majority of homosexuals.

Most of these people just want to be left alone. All they want is life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. One thing they don’t want is to be judged on their sexuality.

I have mixed feelings about allowing homosexual partners to adopt kids. On the one hand I’m absolutely certain most of them would be responsible care givers. The problem is discerning which of them would be responsible and those who would not.

Notice I did not refer to marriage above. The concept of homosexual marriage is ludicrous. IMHO, the homosexual marriage quest is simply a desperate attempt by a bunch of genetically deficient people to be considered normal. Nothing more. Nothing less. That said, I don’t hate them. But I will work very hard to defeat their agenda. There is a difference.


23 posted on 10/22/2010 6:18:43 AM PDT by dools0007world
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To: dools0007world
Suggest you read post 20. People are complex. There are no doubt multiple reasons people are born or choose to be homosexual.

"Born homosexual" can include non-genetic prenatal influences as well as genetics. Most birth defects are not genetic, or at least not entirely genetic. IOW, the information carried on the genes is not always properly implemented. The thalidomide babies, for instance, were not genetically damaged.

Who would choose to be homosexual if they were not?

The problem with this theory is that it applies equally well to any other behavior of which society disapproves.

Who would choose to be a child molester, serial murderer, psychopath, exhibitionist, rapist, or whatever? Not to mention a lazy person, drug addict, ugly person, alcoholic or any other unpopular category.

Yet we recognize that people generally bear some degree of responsibility for winding up in one of these groups, although certainly genetic or other "inborn" characteristics often have an influence. We also recognize that the environment around a person influences their likelihood of winding up in such a group.

It seems pretty obvious to me that "homosexuality," like just about all other human behaviors, is a complex mix of "inborn," environmental and "personal choice" factors, with the ratio between these factors varying greatly by individual.

28 posted on 10/22/2010 6:35:26 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (You shall know the truth, and it shall piss you off mightily)
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To: dools0007world

“”IMHO this is pure crap. Homosexuality is not a chosen lifestyle. It is genetic. There is really a very simple question to ask: Who would choose to be homosexual if they were not?””

I my research, I can usually identify the exact time in a person’s life where their sexual preference changed. The only time I have not been able to find this event is where a person was raised in an environment where being gay or lesbian was acceptable from birth.

Yes, I have conducted research on quite a few gays and lesbians over the years. I do not judge them, I only seek to help them understand themselves. I do not seek to change them, only to help them identify the subconscious self sabotage patterns as a result of the inner conflict created by their subconscious emotional beliefs adopted as a child and their current lifestyle actions. This directly influences their immune system.


33 posted on 10/22/2010 6:40:57 AM PDT by tired&retired
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To: dools0007world
I don't think that hardly anyone consciously chooses to be homosexual but it is clearly not solely genetic. Even liberal science has concluded that it is 35% genetic and 65% nurtured. Thus, children being raised by gay parents would logically increase the chance of the children being gay. Plus, as I mentioned early, there is the theory of epigenetics which proposes that early experiences alter genes of children and this alteration can be passed on physically to later generations.
38 posted on 10/22/2010 6:53:47 AM PDT by LightningStriker2010
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To: dools0007world
It is genetic.

Muslim families are more likely to have Muslim children. Democrat families are somewhat more likely to have Democrat children. Is that 100% genetic? Is intelligence or criminality 100% genetic? Should parents be allowed to genetically test their children in the womb and abort the druggies and rapists?

The truth is closer to 50/50 nature/nurture for any complex human behavior. It's the 50% nurture part that is the problem with gays adopting children.

44 posted on 10/22/2010 7:29:00 AM PDT by Reeses (Now is the autumn of our discontent.)
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To: dools0007world
Most of these people just want to be left alone. All they want is life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

That is a lie. They want affirmation and acceptance for their nihilistic, destructive behavior. They want to promote it as good (as they do in all media where they hide all negative references like the Duke homosexual who married in Mass and adopted a black baby and molested him and pimped him to other homosexuals.) It is a sexual identity disorder and never natural. It was a crime to take it off the APA list of disorders and was forced off--not by scientific research--but by the gay movement so they could proceed to normalize it through brainwashing.

There is no homosexual gene. It has been conclusively proven in several scientific reports. They try to compare a behavior to skin color....it is why they lie about the genetic angle--to gain sympathy for a lifestyle.

If there is a sexual orientation gene, then there has to be a baby raping gene or a bestiality gene. It is utterly stupid to pursue the "gene" theory.

Sexual decadence is learned--you find lots of it where it is not condemned....Gramsci and Marcuse understood the need to corrupt societies by using sexual perversion and Freudian Marxism is behind the homosexual movement.

Research the intent of this movement....it is to destroy Western Civilization.....not change it....to destroy it. Get educated before you make such ignorant posts!

False Compassion is what you have for homosexuality. Yes, Christians need to be compassionate to all sinners, because we all are....but you do not affirm the sins and advocate the continual sinning PLUS tell your kids (cognitive dissonance) that homosexual behavior is good. That is like telling them doing crack is good too. Both behaviors are nihilistic and are demeaning to a culture of life. Healthy societies can not promote destructive lifestyles to their children. It is suicidal for a culture to do that....but with the Cultural Marxists in control of media, schools and government, we are destroying ourselves....We need to CHANGE NOW!

54 posted on 10/22/2010 8:46:22 AM PDT by savagesusie
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