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Pontiac Falls From Muscle Car Glory to Graveyard
New York Times ^ | 10/29/2010 | Nick Bunkley

Posted on 10/29/2010 2:55:35 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd

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To: ßuddaßudd
Here's mine:

I even had the OHC Six. I had a lot of problems keeping oil pressure in the cam. Lost a lot of lifters and rocker arms. My Dad and I rigged a hose from the oil pump to the top of the cam shaft cover. Never lost a part again!

41 posted on 10/29/2010 3:43:52 PM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must-like men-undergo the fatigue of supporting it)
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To: Responsibility2nd
My 1st Car at age 16 (1959) was a 1953 Chev

After that for many a year I became a devoted "P" man.

Had a 1956 and 57.

Then I joined the USAF in 1962

This is a pic of (an exact duplicate, down to the Rally wheels and wood steering wheel) my first new car ever and the one which holds the most memories.

I ordered the GOAT while in Nam and picked it up on July 7th 1967 in Pontiac MI.

The people at the Factory were super nice and they rushed finishing the production as I was a week early.

If you can imagine the thrill when they called me and told me that my "Iron" would be ready at such and such a time and sent someone to pick me up at the motel I was staying.

NOT ONLY did I witness it rolling up to the end of the assembly line, but they gave me the keys and I drove it....out the door.

Undoubtedly one the biggest--and not soon to be forgotten--thrils of my life

Here it is: 400 Cu in, HO, 360 HP, 4 Speed and...a "Mover" in its day!

67_00244_1

42 posted on 10/29/2010 3:49:44 PM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet ((One of ONLY 37 Conservatives in the People's Republic of Vermont. Socialists and Progressives All))
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To: Natural Law
My first car was a '65 LeMans. I loved that car too. Paid $350 cash for it, after saving up all summer working at an ice cream store. It looked something like this:

You could practically play football on the hood, and you could climb into the the engine compartment and sit comfortably while you did whatever needed doing under there.

What a car -- what a country. RIP

43 posted on 10/29/2010 3:51:59 PM PDT by Semper911 (When you want to rob Peter to pay Paul, you'll always have the support of Paul.)
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To: TalBlack

I have owned a 1976, 1979 and 2001 Trans-Am.


44 posted on 10/29/2010 3:57:26 PM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I had a 1970 Grand Prix back in the early 90`s. It was a 455 car and was just about dead stock as you can get ( with the exception an 066 cam I installed from a GTO a friend parted out). I loved to race stock Mustang GT`s. Me and my “whitewall tires” would usually walk by them at the century mark at the track. That car was a sled but it was a torgue monster !!

My favorite car was a 1970 Olds Cutlass W/31. I owned that car for many years. Next would be my 1970 Gran Sport 455 convertible.


45 posted on 10/29/2010 4:00:37 PM PDT by Bud Krieger (Another President, another idiot....)
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To: Responsibility2nd
"The cause of death was in dispute. Fans said Pontiac’s wounds were self-inflicted, while General Motors blamed a terminal illness contracted during last year’s bankruptcy.

Permit me to add my 2 cents and opine!

While many other companies where bringing back replicas of the Muscle Car, the ONE which actually spawned the craze (The Goat) was relegated to the ash heap of history by some MORON MOONBAT (who's identidy escapes me and I'd rather not remember who this A-Hole was) decision, to produce the replica (dare I say a PIECE OF SHEET, "SLED") in Australia and it's looks were an abomination.

While all of the other reproductions (from the Vette to the Pony Car--Mustang) incorporated features of its predecessors, the GTO Holden (GAG ME WITH A SPOON as the old saying used to go) looked like ever other piece of crapola when produced.

IF Pontiac had manufactured a vehicle which in any way resembled the Goat of 1964-67, I (and thousands of other who railed against that decision, yet that young "Brain-Dead Idiot" who had the final say so, scoffed at us) are convinced they would have sold TENS of THOUSANDS to us "Aficionados" and though it might not have saved the Pontiac Division, it certainly would have added to its bottom line!

46 posted on 10/29/2010 4:03:11 PM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet ((One of ONLY 37 Conservatives in the People's Republic of Vermont. Socialists and Progressives All))
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To: B4Ranch

I must scan some old photos and get them on fotki so I can post some of the legendary 65 GTO that I raced in 65, 66, 67 and traded it in for a 68 Chevy Step Side which I still have. Muscle cars were killed by the EPA among other fed agencies...


47 posted on 10/29/2010 4:03:48 PM PDT by tubebender
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To: Responsibility2nd
Pontiac Astre... A muscle car for sure. (I had the sister car - the Vega)


48 posted on 10/29/2010 4:13:15 PM PDT by raybbr (Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)
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To: ken21

Blame Dex-cool as well....


49 posted on 10/29/2010 4:14:56 PM PDT by donozark (Nobody loves me! Everybody hates me! I'm going to go eat worms!)
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To: Responsibility2nd


These were all the rage back when I was in high school.
50 posted on 10/29/2010 4:15:30 PM PDT by 38special (Remember in November!)
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To: titanicsuccess
"I had an 88 Fiero Formula. I really enjoyed that car!!!"

Within a few years of the Fiero's cancellation, the two-seat market boomed with the Miata, the MR2 and the Honda Del Sol. Had Pontiac kept innovating and improving the Fiero as they had done over the five years of its production, they would have been very well positioned to grab a huge share of that business.

51 posted on 10/29/2010 4:16:56 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet
Agreed...

My first thought was, What the hell? it's a damn Grand Prix.

Sheese guys...

52 posted on 10/29/2010 4:17:35 PM PDT by pandemoniumreigns
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To: Responsibility2nd

It just hit me last night that of our three cars, all are from extinct marques.

Pontiac Vibe
Pontiac Montana
Mercury Sable

Nothing exciting although the Vibe is fun to drive. 5 Speed.


53 posted on 10/29/2010 4:23:42 PM PDT by cyclotic (Boy Scouts-Developing Leaders in a World of Followers.)
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To: tubebender
Muscle cars were killed by the EPA among other fed agencies...

There are still fast cars out there for those who want them. My 2005 Grand Prix GXP goes 0-60 faster than my 69 Olds 442 ever would, and the GXP isn't limited to just going fast in a straight line.

There are faster cars out there to buy, but for the Minnesota winter roads and personal preference developed through owning a lot of different cars over the years, I wanted a fast, front wheel drive sedan that wouldn't cost too much.

54 posted on 10/29/2010 4:25:46 PM PDT by Wissa (Gone Galt)
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To: peeps36

Well, they did bring back the GTO briefly...but they had to go to Australia to get it. The GTO was basically a left-hand-drive Holden Monaro. It was a decent V8 muscle car but it was very ordinary-looking and didn’t really do much to live up to the “GTO” legend.

The irony is, Australia is the only other country in the world that took a true liking to the classic American V8-powered muscle car...and now they’re the only country still making them, because we don’t.

}:-)4


55 posted on 10/29/2010 4:33:46 PM PDT by Moose4 ("By all that you hold dear on this good Earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West!")
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To: Snickering Hound

The Aztec was the first ‘car’ designed entirely by women.

After those results, it’s probably the last.

At the time, the WSJ did an expose’ on the fiasco called Aztec.


56 posted on 10/29/2010 4:59:44 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years)
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To: Responsibility2nd
I always thought this was a beautiful design, too bad they could not make it the car it could have been.
57 posted on 10/29/2010 5:16:19 PM PDT by coon2000 (Give me Liberty or give me death!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I have one of the last real Poniac muscle cars—A 1994 Ponitac Formula with that big ol rumbling 5.7 liter LT1 V-8.

Has almost 115,000 miles on her and still gets over 22 MPG on the road at 75 mph average.


58 posted on 10/29/2010 5:39:48 PM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Ping for later.


59 posted on 10/29/2010 5:51:20 PM PDT by Hotmetal (Support the castle, defend the flag. 858TH Engineering Battalion)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
The ‘65 (with the right equipment) was proably the fastest stock street rod of the muscle car era

If it was racing against another car WITHOUT the proper equipment. The GTO was a sensation but it was over-rated in the GO department.

60 posted on 10/29/2010 6:04:19 PM PDT by SeeSac
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