Posted on 11/01/2010 3:27:51 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
The state lottery was sold as a gold mine of funding for schools, that either it would be an addition to existing budgetary funding designated for schools, or that the existing school funding could simply be reduced somewhat and the budget would begin to shrink.
It didn’t take Sacramento long to find a third option initiated immediately after Prop 13 passed: cut the existing funding from the budget and direct that money to other projects. The end result was a bigger budget and a bigger deficit.
We’ve seen the shell game too many times to think that this time it’s different.
“Conventional wisdom says .... “
Conventional wisdom should give me a call and I’ll let him/her in on the real deal.
Stoners tend to vote democrat. Therefore legalize their habit and more will start smoking openly. Fewer democrat votes. And those republicans and libertarians who take the occasional hit won’t have to worry about insane criminal penalties. Sounds like a win-win.
Maybe they are individuals and can’t be conveniently put into boxes. Maybe the group isn’t everything. Sure, liberals are knee-jerk lock-step marching zombies but tea partiers aren’t.”
Nicely put.
They are confused. Wrong tea. Prop 19 will go down to major defeat.
Unionized pot pickers would be less productive, so the jobs would move offshore.
I believe in states rights.. and more liberty over less... So hopefully one of these days this pretty benign substance will be legal for adults to ingest in one or two states.. and maybe, just maybe we’ll spend a little less on prisons, gang violence.. or maybe people will enjoy tiny bit more freedom.
If you think pot more dangerous than, say, alcohol, show us the proof.. or at least point to a pot rehab clinic—they don’t really exist because it is not especially addictive.
Read my reasoning here if you care to.
Let CA win this battle and face the Feds. I'm not being facetious at all. If CA marijuana growers can produce Federally controlled substances and sidestep the Commerce Clause, then I shall do likewise with other Federally restricted items that I intend to create for my own personal use and never put into interstate commerce.
I’m in favor of Prop 19. It would be good for California for many reasons in many ways. I’d be surprised if the Dems won and Prop 19 didn’t pass. I would guess that Prop 19 passes, Fiorina wins, Whitman wins. But that does happen to coincide with my preferences, and I’m not in California.
Prop 19 would bring so much money to California.
I honestly have not read the prop since I live in Texas. Stupid of me to assume that employers would be able to do the same as here.
My dads company prohibits alcohol consumption anytime within 12 hours of work.
He does regular and random drug screens which are within his rights.
If an employee doesn’t like it he can work somewhere else.
I think weed should be legal, but prohibiting employers from restrcting it’s use is a bad idea.
For me that is the poison pill in the prop if that is what it says.
Voluntary?
“Idiots for Pot and that is about it.”
They don’t want the idiots against pot to be lonely.
Exactly.
Any “sin tax”’is voluntary in tge sense that you don’t have to buy it.
As opposed to the income tax.
Don’t get me wrong either. I know the government will waste the money.
So you think drug dealers act well, and you would like to live in a state that is a drug dealer? If they legalize drugs, there should be 0 taxes on them. Because who wants to live in a state run by drug dealers?
What?
“Drug Dealers” will equal “stores” if Prop 19 passes.
There won’t be drug gangs, at least not gangs that sell marijuana if Prop 19 passes.
There will be big stores in SF / Oakland / Bay Area, and people from all over the country and even the world will go to those stores and pay whatever sales taxes or even pot taxes, like alcohol taxes. Those drug tourists will spend a lot of money on restaurants and hotels and plane fares. Money will come from all over the world and will be handed to California businesses.
California would be the center of a new, legitimate worldwide business.
This prop 19 pretty much just treats marijuana like alcohol.
Imagine if alcohol was only completely legal in one state. That state would make a lot of money. A lot. Same with marijuana in this case.
I personally like the fact that the Prop 19 pretty much lets you grow 25 square feet of marijuana, without any penalty, without any paperwork. Larger amounts do, or may, require government interference, taxes, paperwork, but the smaller amounts - 25 sqft, do not.
Oh I see what you mean-I thought you meant they would not really enforce the tax and if you wanted to pay it you could
when you purchase it.
The pot heads are losers. Had one buy a plant from a closing pot store. Jerk leaves it out in public on the stairs to get sun and to attract other addicts or children,.
That seems to be the future of dealing with those idiots.
Cops didn’t like it either.
Don’t need to expose employers either by making it legal and hard to stop near the work place. Another liability for employers as some of their dope head employees get juiced up.
Don’t need it IMO.
“Imagine if alcohol was only completely legal in one state. That state would make a lot of money. A lot. Same with marijuana in this case.”
Morality aside, you make an interesting case for the ecomonics of it.
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