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To: Carry_Okie

“Much of the “industry” you are thinking about has already left. Unless there is some sort of welfare system for power, this one may chase out the riffraff too, a common liberal tactic employed in wealthy counties such as Marin.

BTW, 20% of the power used in California is for moving and treating water. A lot of that is not going away under any circumstances.”

You are certainly correct about power for water treatment. I suspect that some reasonable level of power generation supports irrigation efforts that the rats would like to curtail.

I am not sure if you are correct about business movement. I do not doubt that much business has already fled but I think there are plenty of energy intensive businesses that will move in the coming 10 years if AB32 is not derailed in some way. In addition, there are many reasonably energy intensive businesses (such as a typical restaurant) that cannot flee. The only choices for these businesses is raise prices or close.

I was not serious about meeting the goals. The goals cannot be met even with wrecking the state’s economy. California is hoping that the EPA will impose similar costs on the rest of the country so that California does not become even less competitive to the rest of the country. I hope that the Republican House can somehow stop the EPA from imposing this terrible cost on the entire country.


25 posted on 11/06/2010 8:45:46 AM PDT by businessprofessor
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To: businessprofessor
You are certainly correct about power for water treatment. I suspect that some reasonable level of power generation supports irrigation efforts that the rats would like to curtail.

They've got the Delta Smelt for that, but yes, they're out to steal dirt.

I am not sure if you are correct about business movement.

As of 2008, it was about 3X agriculture, but considering how much of it is for lighting, I don't think that is such a substantial fraction of TCOS that it would make anybody move. The energy intensive businesses have been relocating for a long time at a steady clip.

BTW, consider how much of our gas bill in this state is for oxidation of emissions. It's a big co-gen opportunity.

The goals cannot be met even with wrecking the state’s economy.

If they can chase people out of the suburbs to buy their inflated Sustainable Tenements they might. At least, that's the plan.

I hope that the Republican House can somehow stop the EPA from imposing this terrible cost on the entire country.

There's so much big money behind the RINOcRats demanding this, I don't see how with Barry-O sitting atop his veto pen.

26 posted on 11/06/2010 9:19:49 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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