Posted on 11/15/2010 10:14:57 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld
U.S. military planners have discovered that China's current arsenal of non-nuclear ballistic and cruise missiles could probably knock out five of six major American air bases in Japanese and South Korea. Oops. To make matters worse, this has become an issue as North Korea stumbles towards political collapse, and China indicates that it will assume control in the north if that happens. South Korea believes it should move north to deal with a collapse, and this plan is becoming a contentious issue with China. It's long been obvious that China planned a similar tactic against Taiwan. Wargames and detailed analysis of possible Chinese attacks on Taiwan, indicated that the basic Chinese missile attack strategy might work, and do so within days. The key to such a blitz is the 1,300 Chinese ballistic and cruise missiles. Most of these are based on the coast opposite Taiwan (180 kilometers away across the Taiwan Straits). The Chinese missiles carry one ton or half ton conventional (high explosive or cluster bomb) warheads, and were expected to be used to try and cripple Taiwanese air force and navy, as well as attacking headquarters and communications targets. Almost simultaneously, China would try to invade with airborne and amphibious forces.
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I have thought for a long time that Taiwan should be fielding a large number of ballistic missiles. Their best hope is to damage as many of the red staging areas as possible.
Think about it: You want to assert yourself in your sphere of influence and the only possible obstacle is the weakest, most self-referential “leader” in 150 years.
Of COURSE China will assert itself!
There is nothing to lose!
If we had a real president, this would be a nuisance, at best. Can you see Red China threatening Presidents Reagan, Nixon or Eisenhower in any way, shape or form?
Americans did this in Nov 2008. Maybe if the idiots shut off and canceled TV’s endless propaganda — they might not be so brainwashed. Things are getting worse.
They are working on the Hsiungfeng 2E cruise missiles which should be deployed by now
Let the S Koreans work out something with the Chinese. Then the South Koreans deploy OPLAN 5029.
China has their own version of OPLAN 5029:
The contingency plans outline three missions in North Korea should the regime become unstable: humanitarian efforts to help refugees, peacekeeping activities such as serving as police, and the securing of nuclear weapons and fissile material as well as cleaning up any nuclear contamination.
“If deemed necessary, PLA troops would be dispatched into North Korea,” said the report, referring to China’s military, the People’s Liberation Army.
“China’s strong preference is to receive formal authorization and coordinate closely with the U.N. in such an endeavor. However, if the international community did not react in a timely manner as the internal order in North Korea deteriorated rapidly, China would seek to take the initiative in restoring stability,” it said.
The report, titled “Keeping an Eye on an Unruly Neighbor,” was commissioned by the U.S. Institute of Peace and written jointly by authors from the institute and the Center for Strategic and International Studies. It is based on discussions with Chinese specialists on North Korea in June last year and was posted last week on the Web sites of authors’ organizations.
Another thing, demographics are not working for the ChiComs. Too many men and not enough women. What to do with those surpluses of males?
Thank you mr. clinton for contributing to their technology.
Now, we need some testicular fortitude.
“If we had a real president, this would be a nuisance, at best. Can you see Red China threatening Presidents Reagan, Nixon or Eisenhower in any way, shape or form?”
China was more-or-less our ally against the Soviets for two of those three presidents, and in any case they were too poor and backwards at that time to pose much of a threat to anyone. In fact, they only started to become a problem in the ‘90s when everyone started putting factories there and building up their economy. And then they started getting ahold of US military technology thanks to Bernie Schwartz and Loral, and because Clinton lifted the ban on sales of supercomputers to China in 1994.
If North Korea collapses, a huge amount of refugees will come into China, so they very probably would intervene there to restore order.
The Chinese mostly keep NK propped up as a strategic buffer zone. Firstly, they would not want a unified, American-backed Korea on their border and secondly Pyongyang comes in handy whenever they need to get us off their back for complaining about their trade practices. Just tell them to shoot off a missile or two and we forget all about China’s currency juggling.
Look for these near simultaneous events in the Spring:
1- A Chinese preemptive strike on US satellites
2- A Chinese premptive strike on US computer infrastructure
3- A Chinese preemptive EMP strike on Hawaii
4- A Chinese preemptive strike on US forces in Japan perhaps EMP perhaps physical
5- A crushing Chinese invasion of Taiwan
6- The North Korean invasion of the South
7- A Chinese tidal wave pouring over the North Korean border, rushing to the front lines, which by then will be south of Seoul and sweeping the South Korean forces into the East China Sea within 30-60 days of the begining of hostilities. The 28,000 Americans there will be dead.
8- Turkey leaving NATO, realigning with the rest of the muslim world and confiscating US nucular weapons there.
9- Not necessarily coordinated with China but seizing the opportunity, a combined 'muslim world' attack on Israel led by Turkey, which recently has been holding joint military exercizes with China.
10- A huge Al-Qaeda terrorist attack in the US. As big as 911.
11- A huge "Tet-like" offensive in both Afganistan and Iraq.
12- The President of the United States calling for United Nations condemnation and declaring the US can no longer be the policeman of the world and ordering home all remaining troops stationed abroad.
Quickly followed by recognition of the opportunity to totally restructure American society and then:
13- "Temporary" expansion of the Patriot Act giving the President dictatorial powers to "Protect the people from terrorism".
14- "Temporarily" setting aside the Constitution for the preservation of the nation.
15- Federalizing all law enforcement agencies and National Guard units to coordinate the fight against the terrorists.
16- Outlawing of opposition speech as aiding and abetting the terrorists.
17- Stationing of Federal troops inside the Supreme Court and the arrest and imprisonment of any terrorist sympathizers who speak against the administration.
18- Stationing of Federal troops inside the Senate and Congressional chambers and the arrest and imprisonment of any terrorist sympathizers who speak against the administration.
19- Stationing of Federal troops inside all media offices and the arrest and imprisonment of any terrorist sympathizers who speak against the administration. 20- Confiscation of the internet as a terrorist tool.
21- Confiscation of all privately held firearms.
22- Outlawing of the right of all assembly. (Political, religious)
23- Paycheck deductions no longer handled by employers but by government bureaucrats who take what the government wants and gives you the rest.
24- Federal anti-terrorism counselors stationed in every public school to gather information on terrorist sympathizing opponents.
25- Federal tracking of citizens through cell phone gps.
Once it got to just #2 on your shopping list there, believe me, patriotic forces within the Pentagon and in the field, with near unanimous support by the American People, would form and institute an urgent interim US government on an emergency basis to defeat the enemies, if civilian control showed lack of power nor intent to prevail in view of such an onslaught on the Country and basic our way of life.
This all hypothetical of course. If they were going to attack in the Spring you would probably some slow build up in their forces.
All this build up of military forces would be seen by our spy satellites of course and there has not been any sign of a build up of Chinese forces by satellite
I hope you’re right.
I hope it doesn’t happen but there is time to begin.
When will there ever be a better time to assert themselves?
And just what will Obama do if they start?
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