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Pilot to Hannity: The TSA wanted to see my penis (They're going too far)
Hotair ^ | 11/18/2010 | The Right Scoop

Posted on 11/18/2010 7:17:57 AM PST by WebFocus

Yeah, he really said that, which caught Hannity completely off guard. What he was really talking about was going through the airport scanners. Michael Roberts, a pilot who is now suing Homeland Security decided to forgo the airport scanners and the fully body ‘love pats’ and took the third option of going home, which is where he’s been every since. He says that he’s always gone through the metal detector, but this is going way too far.

A point that Hannity made which I find interesting is that the logic fails on scanning and searching pilots because they can ultimately crash the plane anyway. There’s no procedure in the world that can prevent that and it just shows how ludicrous these measures have become. Last night on the O’Reilly Factor, Ann Coulter asked if body cavity searches would be next, considering that terrorists have already used this method to conceal explosives.

What we really need to do is to take a page out of Israel’s playbook and begin doing background checks on airline passengers and putting people on the ground in the airports that are specifically trained to interview suspicious passengers. These methods are much less invasive, and highly effective according to the former Security Chief of El Al airlines.

I’ll be glad when we get some common sense in Washington. This is really getting pathetic.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: airportsecurity; tsa; tsapervs; tsascanners
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1 posted on 11/18/2010 7:17:58 AM PST by WebFocus
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To: WebFocus

I’m stunned that there’s so little outrage about this. Last night Peter Johnson shouted down Ann Coulter’s objections about these practices, sneering at her concerns. This morning, most of the F&F were very supportive of these practices. As for me, I’m using anything but a plane to travel. Flying is for people who enjoy perversion.


2 posted on 11/18/2010 7:21:09 AM PST by MizSterious ("Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." -JFK)
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To: WebFocus
Just let people carry open or concealed freely on the planes.

The first guy who looks like he's up to something will get aired out immediately by multiple people. The planes can handle this, too.

Guaranteed no more hijackings.

3 posted on 11/18/2010 7:22:56 AM PST by caddie
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To: MizSterious

Hillary had the same problem.

4 posted on 11/18/2010 7:23:35 AM PST by Vide
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To: MizSterious

How true is it that radiation experts are saying that the amount of radiation people will be exposed to through these airport scanners are going to stick on their skin for a long time?

Imagine cancer patients and survivors having to go through this.... Laura Ingraham ( a breast cancer survivor herself ) expressed her concerns on this when she spoke to Michael Savage yesterday.


5 posted on 11/18/2010 7:23:41 AM PST by WebFocus
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To: WebFocus
I sympathize with all who have to do air travel next week.

It will be ugly.

6 posted on 11/18/2010 7:24:05 AM PST by AU72
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To: MizSterious

I saw that and remember thinking what a jerk the guy was. That guy’s name is really Peter Johnson? How fitting.


7 posted on 11/18/2010 7:24:42 AM PST by jospehm20
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To: MizSterious

What about the 4th ammendment regarding unreasonable search and siezure?

That’s just it, isn’t it. We all realize that what the TSA is doing is unreasonable. Why do we believe/know it is unreasonable?

It isn’t going to stop the terrorist. We already know that, we already realize that. We know what they are doing is essentially fruitless in the face of an ill defined enemy.

This is what makes this a violation of our Rights. They have no reasonable cause to be searching people in this manner. I am sorry, but if they pull you aside for a search they had better have a reason other than “random.”

No, it is time for people to exercise their Rights. It is time to not be afraid of these ill conceived “rules” that violate our Rights.

It is time to make the government DEFINE THE ENEMY. The time for playing nice, nice is over. If we have to lose our Rights because of some misconstrued political correctness SOB...it is time to formerly revolt.

Stop them from respecting the enemy. Demand they define the enemy they are “searching for.”


8 posted on 11/18/2010 7:25:24 AM PST by EBH ( Whether you eat your bread or see it vanish into a looter's stomach, is an absolute.)
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To: WebFocus

Why don’t we just adopt the Israeli methodology? They know a thing or two about stopping terrorists.


9 posted on 11/18/2010 7:25:35 AM PST by thethirddegree
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To: WebFocus

How Terahertz Waves Tear Apart DNA

A new model of the way the THz waves interact with DNA explains how the damage is done and why evidence has been so hard to gather

Great things are expected of terahertz waves, the radiation that fills the slot in the electromagnetic spectrum between microwaves and the infrared. Terahertz waves pass through non-conducting materials such as clothes , paper, wood and brick and so cameras sensitive to them can peer inside envelopes, into living rooms and “frisk” people at distance.

The way terahertz waves are absorbed and emitted can also be used to determine the chemical composition of a material. And even though they don’t travel far inside the body, there is great hope that the waves can be used to spot tumours near the surface of the skin.

With all that potential, it’s no wonder that research on terahertz waves has exploded in the last ten years or so.

But what of the health effects of terahertz waves? At first glance, it’s easy to dismiss any notion that they can be damaging. Terahertz photons are not energetic enough to break chemical bonds or ionise atoms or molecules, the chief reasons why higher energy photons such as x-rays and UV rays are so bad for us. But could there be another mechanism at work?

The evidence that terahertz radiation damages biological systems is mixed. “Some studies reported significant genetic damage while others, although similar, showed none,” say Boian Alexandrov at the Center for Nonlinear Studies at Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico and a few buddies. Now these guys think they know why.

Alexandrov and co have created a model to investigate how THz fields interact with double-stranded DNA and what they’ve found is remarkable. They say that although the forces generated are tiny, resonant effects allow THz waves to unzip double-stranded DNA, creating bubbles in the double strand that could significantly interfere with processes such as gene expression and DNA replication. That’s a jaw dropping conclusion.

And it also explains why the evidence has been so hard to garner. Ordinary resonant effects are not powerful enough to do do this kind of damage but nonlinear resonances can. These nonlinear instabilities are much less likely to form which explains why the character of THz genotoxic
effects are probabilistic rather than deterministic, say the team.

This should set the cat among the pigeons. Of course, terahertz waves are a natural part of environment, just like visible and infrared light. But a new generation of cameras are set to appear that not only record terahertz waves but also bombard us with them. And if our exposure is set to increase, the question that urgently needs answering is what level of terahertz exposure is safe.

Ref: arxiv.org/abs/0910.5294: DNA Breathing Dynamics in the Presence of a Terahertz Field

http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/arxiv/24331/


10 posted on 11/18/2010 7:26:00 AM PST by MizSterious ("Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." -JFK)
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To: WebFocus

This is way out of hand. Defiantly a police state in the making.
Profile dammit!!!

Hannity is still a idiot. Not much of a thinker.


11 posted on 11/18/2010 7:26:37 AM PST by Jazz1968
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To: AU72

I might get on board with this whole thing if the Muzzie’s had to go through it, too.

But they don’t. Welcome female Suicide Bombers.

Women,just put on a Muzzie garb and you won’t have to go through this.


12 posted on 11/18/2010 7:27:02 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: WebFocus

I oppose TSA groping and nudity scanners.

But I also oppose pilots and flight attendants being exempted from what any passenger is subjected to.

Pilots and flight attendants could collude with Muslim Terrorists and become the mules transporting explosives into the airport secure zones if they were exempted.


13 posted on 11/18/2010 7:27:27 AM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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RE: What we really need to do is to take a page out of Israel’s playbook and begin doing background checks on airline passengers and putting people on the ground in the airports that are specifically trained to interview suspicious passengers.


The issue of emulating Israel was brought up. The TSA’s response was we can’t be like Israel because Israel is a SMALL COUNTRY. They can afford to do what they’re doing.

We have dozens of airports in this country, a lot of them much bigger than Israel’s.

I still don’t buy the TSA argument.


14 posted on 11/18/2010 7:27:44 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: WebFocus

There was a post a couple days ago regarding a new study that has shown that this exposure actually damages DNA, which could also potentially cause birth defects in children born to girls or women who had these scans taken before they became pregnant, IIRC.


15 posted on 11/18/2010 7:27:48 AM PST by butterdezillion (.)
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To: WebFocus
How is this not a violation of the 4th ammendment? The police don't have this kind of power to stop and frisk everyone they see, right? From Wiki regarding the 4th Ammendment, I point to Terry v. Ohio discussing police stop and frisk rules:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

To conduct a frisk, officers must be able to point to specific and articulatory facts which, taken together with rational inferences from those facts, reasonably warrant their actions. A vague hunch will not do.

If the police cannot frisk you on a vauge hunch how in the world is blanket pat-down search of everyone legal?

16 posted on 11/18/2010 7:27:51 AM PST by Personal Responsibility (The more the plans fail the more the planners plan - Ronald Reagan)
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To: MizSterious

I too am stunned. I am also amazed that very few of the talking heads even bother to mention that the islamic filth will be receiving special consideration because the hairy females under the burkas have special modesty requirements.


17 posted on 11/18/2010 7:28:21 AM PST by RushLake (Liberalism/Progressivism--Domestic terrorism financed by your tax dollars.)
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To: WebFocus

The Security Kabuki Theater going on in American airports has zero to do with safety. It’s just ass covering and payola for politicians, service unions and bureaucrats. Travelers are only a means to an end.


18 posted on 11/18/2010 7:28:52 AM PST by Poison Pill
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To: Personal Responsibility

Somewhere out there ... Osama Bin Ladin is sneering, smiling, even laughing.

This is EXACTLY what he wants this country, the Great Satan, to become — SO PARANOID AND SUSPICIOUS THAT OUR EVERYDAY LIFE BECOMES HELL.


19 posted on 11/18/2010 7:29:58 AM PST by WebFocus
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To: WebFocus

Wonder if I can go to the secretary of state office and get a photo ID of my penis?


20 posted on 11/18/2010 7:30:31 AM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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