[Always Independent]

And just how did the chins detect and shoot down an F-22 from a sub with a beam weapon well over land in the Denali park? My opinion, either avionics problems or situation awareness during low level manuvers played a role. Maybe even G-LOC.

[Happy Rain]

The F-22 has a lot of stealth technology—without finely tuned aerodynamic monitoring and correcting computer programs it flies like an F-4 without powerful engines-ie,not too good!

There are all weather aircraft and then there are all weather aircraft in Alaska.

I was a Navy weatherman in Adak Alaska back in the early 70s and one of our P-3s crashed into a mountain during nasty weather and if the Orion,THE all weather aircraft,is unable to dodge a land mass during inclement weather certainly an F-22 can be excused.

If only the things weren't so expensive and the program canceled.

[Ronin]

Especially since energy weapons are strictly line of sight. Or did the rules change here?