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To: stuartcr

The story of the garden is about the perlis of being dependant on others for a living. When Adam and Eve were in the garden they were wholy dependant on God like children are to their parents or welfare recipients are to the government. When they learned enough for themselves, by eating the fruit of knowledge, God kicked them out of the garden for their own good because they were able to take care of themselves. To have them stay in the garden would be like these modern day children who never leave home and end up living their parent’s basement, it is not good for them.

The story of the Adam and Eve in the garden can be taken as an analogy about growing up and reaching the age when you must leave the garden (your parents care) because you have the knowledge and power to take care of yourself. When viewed this way God’s expulsion of Adam and Eve from the garden is a merciful act that promotes the growth of man.

Now how Lillith fits in here, she could be viewed as a spoiled child who leaves home early before learning the valuable life lessons and is condemed to a chilish existance of anger and hatred becasue she didn’t grow up. Much like the Liberals who want to run everyone else’s life but fail on running their won lives.


16 posted on 12/01/2010 8:47:24 AM PST by GraceG
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To: GraceG

Please tell me you don’t believe your post 16.

None of that is true, and the view you posted completely negates the need for Jesus’ sacrifice on the cross.


21 posted on 12/01/2010 8:52:56 AM PST by exit82 (Democrats are the enemy of freedom. Sarah Palin is our Esther.)
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To: GraceG
The story of the garden is about the perlis of being dependant on others for a living. When Adam and Eve were in the garden they were wholy dependant on God like children are to their parents or welfare recipients are to the government. When they learned enough for themselves, by eating the fruit of knowledge, God kicked them out of the garden for their own good because they were able to take care of themselves. To have them stay in the garden would be like these modern day children who never leave home and end up living their parent’s basement, it is not good for them.

Um, no. Not even close.

Here's what God's word says:

Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”

So God created mankind in his own image,
in the image of God he created them;
male and female he created them.

God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground.” --Genesis 1:26-28

The LORD God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it. --Genesis 2:15

The LORD God said, “It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him.” --Genesis 2:18 (What was she helping him with if he was a welfare case?)

They had work they were expected to do. They were not dependent on God in a "welfare" sense, they were dependent on Him spiritually as we all should be, and in a close relationship with Him.

To turn the account of the Fall of Man into a parable about kids piling up the pizza boxes in Mom's basement is a pretty serious case of mishandling God's word. It's about the beginning of human evil, not some spoiled kids with a lack of motivation.

36 posted on 12/01/2010 9:18:32 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: GraceG

Interesting point of view...hadn’t thought about the Christian story of creation from that perspective.


44 posted on 12/01/2010 9:26:09 AM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: GraceG

Is leaving your parents care, the same thing as being kicked out for disobeying God the Father? I thought they got kicked out for doing something they were told not to do, and the result was original sin?

Yours is a better stretch for nowadays.


67 posted on 12/01/2010 9:54:32 AM PST by stuartcr (When politicians politicize issues, aren't they just doing their job?)
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To: GraceG; stuartcr
The story of the Adam and Eve in the garden can be taken as an analogy about growing up and reaching the age when you must leave the garden (your parents care) because you have the knowledge and power to take care of yourself. When viewed this way God’s expulsion of Adam and Eve from the garden is a merciful act that promotes the growth of man.

It was a merciful act in that it kept them from eating of the Tree of life and living forever in a sinful state.

By dying, we have the opportunity for a fresh start in a body not corrupted by sin; one that can then eat of that tree and live forever in an unsinful state.

80 posted on 12/01/2010 10:11:52 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: GraceG
Luke 18
16 But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Suffer little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God.
17 Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child shall in no wise enter therein.
141 posted on 12/01/2010 2:11:54 PM PST by Theophilus (Not merely prolife, but prolific!)
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