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Ethanol: Let Protectionism Expire
National Review Online ^ | December 8, 2010 | Harry de Gorter & Jerry Taylor

Posted on 12/08/2010 2:54:27 PM PST by Delacon

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 Tea Party darlings Tom Coburn (R., Okla.) and Jim DeMint (R., S.C.) rightly began pushing the ethanol issue immediately after the election as a key test of whether congressional Republicans could get serious about fiscal discipline.
1 posted on 12/08/2010 2:54:31 PM PST by Delacon
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2 posted on 12/08/2010 2:55:46 PM PST by Delacon ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." H. L. Mencken)
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Thanx Delacon !

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

3 posted on 12/08/2010 2:58:55 PM PST by steelyourfaith (ObamaCare Death Panels: a Final Solution to the looming Social Security crisis ?)
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To: Delacon

bflr


4 posted on 12/08/2010 2:59:15 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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Refineries are closing because "..demand is down 10%.

How they can say this with a straight face is testament to the arrogance & stupidity of uber intellectuals.

Just get rid of the 10% corn crap gookin' up our gasoline & everything will be fine!

5 posted on 12/08/2010 3:00:13 PM PST by de.rm (Bang, bang, . . bang. Shhh=Bush, the elder, E. Howard Hunt, LBJ, Mrs, Edgar Hoover)
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Agreed. I know that my car will run a lot better on clear gas.

Can't buy clear gas in the Denver Metro Area anymore (year round) because of the subsidies even though stations are only required to carry it four months out of the year. Last station stopped selling it a year ago because the owner couldn't compete. E10 is cheaper — guess why.

6 posted on 12/08/2010 3:05:55 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: Delacon

"NR used 'the word.'"

7 posted on 12/08/2010 3:06:05 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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Sorry, meant to ping you to my last.


8 posted on 12/08/2010 3:06:54 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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the Renewable Fuel Standard requires Americans to consume an increasing amount of biofuels each year.

De-fund monitoring and enforcement. End of problem.

9 posted on 12/08/2010 3:07:06 PM PST by SamuraiScot
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A class action lawsuit is needed!

What they've done is actionable on many levels(i.e. stealing our money to help corn whores, ruining our machinery with crappy product, etc.).

In the meantime, try additives, anything you can get your hand on, experiment.

I try to supplement every tankful & have found it very useful.

The Lucas product are good albeit pricey, so I'm more inclined to experiment with Big Lot's product, etc..

10 posted on 12/08/2010 3:11:54 PM PST by de.rm (Bang, bang, . . bang. Shhh=Bush, the elder, E. Howard Hunt, LBJ, Mrs, Edgar Hoover)
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This article doesn’t go far enough. It calls for ending the tariff and the subsidy but doesn’t call for ending the mandate(the requirement that ethanol be added to gasoline). Yep, end the mandate or defund its enforcement.


11 posted on 12/08/2010 3:12:11 PM PST by Delacon ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." H. L. Mencken)
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the U.S. would suffer catastrophic job losses

If we lost some politicians from corn growing states, it would be worth it.

domestic ethanol production would plummet

We need to produce less of the things that waste our tax dollars, like ethanol, Dems and RINOs. And more of our own oil.

12 posted on 12/08/2010 3:14:45 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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“...end to ethanol price supports.”

So, let me get this straight. The fuel suppliers are FORCED to mix gasoline with 10% ethanol, which is subsidized, and now the subsidy is going to be removed?

Gee, what will that do to gas prices at the pump?


13 posted on 12/08/2010 3:17:23 PM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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What kind of additive? The problem for me is the low evaporation temperature of the ethanol.

And there is the rust factor caused by ethanol.


14 posted on 12/08/2010 3:19:32 PM PST by dhs12345
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Gee, what will that do to gas prices at the pump?

How much gas and diesel is wasted every year to make all this energy poor, economically undesirable fuel?

15 posted on 12/08/2010 3:22:13 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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Perhaps a big push is in order. First the subsidy, then the whole industry. Perhaps they can repeal the sin tax on Ethanol to make up for the loss of subsidy. It would make next year more bearable anyway.


16 posted on 12/08/2010 3:23:06 PM PST by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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“So, let me get this straight. The fuel suppliers are FORCED to mix gasoline with 10% ethanol, which is subsidized, and now the subsidy is going to be removed?

Gee, what will that do to gas prices at the pump”?

Reasonable question. The article calls for ending the tariff on foreign sugar ethanol(57 cents per gallon). That alone will drive the cost of ethanol gas down to or less that what it is now with the subsidy. But yes, ending the mandate to add ethanol as well as the subsidy and the tariff would be the best move.


17 posted on 12/08/2010 3:25:27 PM PST by Delacon ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." H. L. Mencken)
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Then you'll prolly want the oily type additives of which Lucas rules.

It's really not to pricey if you buy the gallon bottle, I just got tired of dosing out a few oz. at a time.

For awhile I had one of those plastic lab type bottle you squeeze to dispense a bit at a time, but I left it on a pump somewhere.

So lately I've been buying a similar but cheaper version from Big Lot's because it comes in a 16 oz. easy to handle bottle (plus it's $2) which I just slurp a little in each tank before fill-up.

18 posted on 12/08/2010 3:26:12 PM PST by de.rm (Bang, bang, . . bang. Shhh=Bush, the elder, E. Howard Hunt, LBJ, Mrs, Edgar Hoover)
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Cool. I have been using diesel. What is the Lucas stuff made of. Sounds British.


19 posted on 12/08/2010 3:28:58 PM PST by dhs12345
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Lets get America back to doing with ethanol what it does best. Turn it into whiskey. I say get them to remove all taxes on booze. Will certainly make next year bearable. ;)


20 posted on 12/08/2010 3:30:46 PM PST by Delacon ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." H. L. Mencken)
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