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Army Doc: Deployment Orders Illegal Without Pres. Obama's Birth Records
7NEWS ^ | December 14, 2010 | Deb Stanley,

Posted on 12/14/2010 6:12:11 AM PST by george76

FORT MEADE, Md. -- A military court was set to hear the case Tuesday of an Army doctor charged with refusing to deploy to Afghanistan because he says he doubts whether President Barack Obama was born in the U.S. and therefore questions his eligibility to be commander in chief.

Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin, an 18-year Army veteran from Greeley, disobeyed orders to report earlier this year to Fort Campbell in Kentucky to prepare for deployment, saying he believed the orders were illegal.

In videos posted on YouTube, Lakin aligned himself with so-called "birthers" who question whether Obama is a natural-born citizen as the U.S. Constitution requires for presidents.

Lakin said in the videos that any reasonable person looking at available evidence would have questions about Obama's eligibility to be president and that he had "no choice" but to disobey orders. Lakin said he would "gladly deploy" if Obama's original birth certificate were released and proved authentic.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Colorado; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; bannanarepublic; barack; barackobama; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; colb; conspiracytheory; eligibility; illegalorder; injustice; kangaroocourt; lakin; longform; msm; naturalborncitizen; nwo; obama; obamabirthtruthers; soros; spookydude; terrencelakin
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1 posted on 12/14/2010 6:12:19 AM PST by george76
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To: george76

Court martial starts today. I don’t expect it’ll last long.


2 posted on 12/14/2010 6:14:16 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: george76

To be consistent, he should have regused orders before the deployment ones and since. By cherry-picking what he will and will not consider legitimate orders, he has torpedoed his case.


3 posted on 12/14/2010 6:14:30 AM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Thanks Obama supporter. How is your poor pal over in Germany who was laid off by GM? I f he is like you - I am suprised the Germans would have him. He is probably some lazy old Detroit guy and Obama supporter.


4 posted on 12/14/2010 6:17:51 AM PST by Frantzie
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To: george76

http://larryh.newsvine.com/_news/2010/01/04/3714637-obama-orders-immediate-execution-of-cia-agents-in-afghanistan-by-sorcha-faal-on-friday-january-01-2010-80252-am-


5 posted on 12/14/2010 6:21:34 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Non-Sequitur
Your right. A trial in a Kangaroo court that refuses to hear evidence wont last long. In the soviet union they sent millions of political prisoners to jail without evidence and It works well that way. It should work the same here.
6 posted on 12/14/2010 6:23:56 AM PST by PA-RIVER ( POTUS is a dishonest disrespectful POS who can't come clean with the Constitution)
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To: Frantzie
Thanks Obama supporter.

I'm stating a fact: the trial starts today. And an opinion: it shouldn't take long.

How is your poor pal over in Germany who was laid off by GM? I f he is like you - I am suprised the Germans would have him. He is probably some lazy old Detroit guy and Obama supporter.

I haven't the faintest idea what you are talking about.

7 posted on 12/14/2010 6:24:43 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: PA-RIVER
Your right. A trial in a Kangaroo court that refuses to hear evidence wont last long.

It's willing to hear all the relevant evidence that Lakin is willing to present.

In the soviet union they sent millions of political prisoners to jail without evidence and It works well that way. It should work the same here.

Your equating the U.S. Army with the Soviet military is duly noted.

8 posted on 12/14/2010 6:27:14 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: george76; xzins
If the standard of proof in this case is "beyond a reasonable doubt" I would think that the burden of proof would be on the Military to show that it was a lawful order and produce the documents to prove that Obama was born in Hawaii.

But alas, that will likely not be the case and Larkin will be convicted on the word of Obama and the MSM that he was a Natural Born Citizen.

9 posted on 12/14/2010 6:33:05 AM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Non-Sequitur
Well, we don't know for sure what will happen. The Commander in chief might send his birth certificate to the trial and request that the officer go back to work.

Then again, if the CIC is a scumbag , that probably wont happen.

As for the Army being equated with the Soviet Union, that's your words , Soldier. I am equating a Gutless General too afraid to do her god damn job and let the facts and evidence into the court to speak for themselves. The Soviet Union depended on gutless worms like her. Your familiar with some gutless worms? You understand how they work, kiss a$$ and go along to get along? We all meet scumbags like that, they are not exclusive to the Soviet Union.

10 posted on 12/14/2010 6:36:40 AM PST by PA-RIVER ( POTUS is a dishonest disrespectful POS who can't come clean with the Constitution)
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To: LucyT; Candor7; danamco; stephenjohnbanker; justiceseeker93; null and void

if Obama could only find a U.S. birth certificate ..


11 posted on 12/14/2010 6:58:30 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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The b.c. is dead!!!

One just have to wonder WHY???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1p4PWvH_g70&feature=player_embedded#!


12 posted on 12/14/2010 7:06:20 AM PST by danamco (")
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To: george76
Poor Barak, he's in an quandary.

He has to send a man to jail to keep his fraud going.

He cant release his records and keep his job, King of America.

13 posted on 12/14/2010 7:12:45 AM PST by PA-RIVER ( POTUS is a dishonest disrespectful POS who can't come clean with the Constitution)
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To: P-Marlowe

It saddens me that Lakin has made this error. I believe he thought he could force the system to reveal Obama’s credentials by his refusal to deploy. What he forgot was that there are strict legal standards about failing to deploy that have been in place for generations. The most critical issue is that the Manual for Courts Martial says that any order should be presumed to legal without absolutely clear evidence that it is not. It also suggests that a questionable order delivered through the normally official chain are to be considered legal orders.

Did Ltc Lakin have questions? Yep. But, was the order delivered through the chain that he otherwise responds to with obedience? Yes.

The proper avenue would have been to obey the deployment orders while registering a challenge.


14 posted on 12/14/2010 7:23:42 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain & proud of it: Truly Supporting the Troops means praying for their Victory!)
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To: xzins

And they would “register” that challenge right there next to the candy wrappers in the “circular file”.


15 posted on 12/14/2010 7:24:58 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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LTC Lakin is experienced enough to keep track of any paperwork he might submit for action.

Right now, though, with this course of action he STILL is not getting results AND he’s liable for adverse action. That doesn’t appear to have better results than having obeyed the deployment orders while challenging them.

You need to understand that I am among those who realize that Obama has not come clean about his credentials. You can check my posts on this since before the election. And when Lakin’s case came up, I immediately said that I thought he had chosen a course of action that would lose.


16 posted on 12/14/2010 7:32:30 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain & proud of it: Truly Supporting the Troops means praying for their Victory!)
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To: Gondring

Obama could end all of these court filings if he would just release his COLB and college records. How many court filings have there been regarding where the worst POTUS ever was born, anyway? Anyone know?

Where is the MSM? IF any other POTUS had their college records sealed as well as the state of Hawaii sealing his birth from FOIA or any inquiries (coincedently right after Obama went to Hawaii to bury his grandmother.) The MSM would be screaming!

Call me crazy,nuts,loony, call me a BIRTHER; I don’t care!
There are too many unanswered questions regarding Obama.
The MSM has so much as admitted they covered for him.

http://web.archive.org/web/20040627142700/http://eastandard.net/headlines/news26060403.htm


17 posted on 12/14/2010 7:34:50 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: xzins

Hey, I’m not accusing you of anything.

Yes, Lakin is now subject to “adverse action”,
but at least he’s forcing them to deal with him.

Submitting a challenge would be far too easy to ignore,
as in, “lacking standing”.

The Powers That Be are scared spitless of touching this issue with a 10 ft pole. There has been no case in which the merits have been even looked at.


18 posted on 12/14/2010 7:35:24 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: xzins
I believe he thought he could force the system to reveal Obama's credentials by his refusal to deploy.

I don't believe that at all. Surely the order to deploy was not the very first order he received since 20 January 2009.

This poltroon is an barrack-room lawyer who thinks he's found a loophole to avoid getting sent into a combat zone.

19 posted on 12/14/2010 7:44:05 AM PST by tricksy
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To: MrB

I agree it is so unprecedented no one wants to touch it.
It was said that when Bush had minor surgery he passed the football to Cheney. Imagine a POTUS not qualified to render any EO muchless be a CIC?

I ask... why did Axelrod not simply address the issue besides releasing some BC a blogger made? Where is the COLB? Why did Obama go to Hawaii and all of a sudden his COLB is sealed from inquiry or FOIA?

If Obama is all legal eagle then why did Axelrod use ALinsky 101 and label all those that dare question as’BIRTHERS” and RACISTS?


20 posted on 12/14/2010 7:44:21 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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